Author: walter irvin
Date: 13:18:56 08/09/99
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On August 09, 1999 at 15:08:21, Christopher R. Dorr wrote: >On August 09, 1999 at 14:22:49, walter irvin wrote: > >>>Christopher R. Dorr wrote: >>> >>>WHy do you post such statements if you are unwilling to back them up? They fly >>>in the face of *all* evidence and experience. You must realize that they appear >>>very peculiar to say the least. >>> >>>Chris Dorr >>>USCF Master > >>well the thing is i have played many more games vs computers than you , does >>not mean i better than you , maybe better against computers . its a possibility >>.plus my true rating is not 1616 ,1250 ect they are ratings based on see below >>posting .i think im some where around 2100 or so .but that will change as i have >>been practicing 6 or 7 hr. day every day .my new financial situation allows me >>to devote much more time than ever before .plus i will be able to compete a >>whole lot more .plus i have something you need to be champion i believe in >>myself 100%. > >First off, I strongly doubt that you have played more games against computers >than I have. I have been playing computers almost as long as I have been playing >chess (almost 20 years). I have written programs, written opening books for >serious programs (NOW, by Mark Lefler, when it competed in the Harvard Cup), and >played tens of thousands of games (literally) against a variety of gprograms. >Even with this kind of experience, I still get smashed regularly by good >programs. They are simply much better than a USCF 2150-2200 type like me. By >extension, it appears clear that they are even *more* superior to a 1616. It is >very hard to believe that you can beat them. You must prove this to us. > >I am happy for you that you will be able to devote more time to chess, but if >you are going to post such messages on here, you will need to prove what you >say. For us to give any credence at all to what you say, you will need to either >submit games against a program that can be verified, or preferably play on ICS >against Crafty, as Bob Hyatt has offered. > >Believing in yourself is fine. Saying that you can handily beat every program >out there requires more than that...it requires proof. You have been offered the >chance to prove yourself. Crafty (or another program) could be made available >virtually any time to play you. Please indicate one of the following: > >1. "I will play Crafty on such a date" > >2. "I will submit verifiable games that I have played to prove my claim" > >3. "I refuse to play, and therefore admit that what I said before wasn't true, >and that I recognize that I'd get smashed by a good program under equal >conditions" > >You did, after all, ititiate this with your claims. If you are going to make >these claims you need to back them up; not back out with excuses like "My >program isn't ready to play in public yet" ...if you can't prove the clathen >please don't waste our time here by making it. > >Chris ok im willing to play crafty on icc , i simply want 3 weeks to prepare ,i just want a decent time control ,i think i can handle 15 15 is the fastest i'll play.by the way ive been playing computer chess since 1978,plus i was stationed on a remote out post in germany in the army for 6 1/2 years i had not much else to do but play chess,i could not find people strong enough so i played computers .
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