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Subject: Re: give up

Author: Michael Fuhrmann

Date: 13:35:46 08/09/99

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On August 09, 1999 at 16:25:29, walter irvin wrote:

>On August 09, 1999 at 15:14:36, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:
>
>>
>>I am very glad that you are going to play Crafty! Please post the date you
>>expect to play and your handle, so that those who have participated in this
>>thread can watch!
>>Although it is kind of interesting...to me, it seemed that your original post
>>indicated that you felt you could beat these programs very easily...that none
>>could stand up to you...are you now saying that that isn't the case, and that
>>you just expect to not get shut out in a series of games? These are *vastly*
>>different statements...similar to saying "I can beat Pete Sampras to win a match
>>very easily" versus "I can play Pete Sampras, and not lose every game."
>>
>>
>>Chris
>pete sampras your that good!!! what im saying is that that crafty or any good
>chess program should mop the floor with a player with an rating of under 1700
>yes or no?? but i think i can score more like 2300+ against computer .


Seems to me that if it were so easy for a 1700 player to get respectable scores
against Crafty, its rating wouldn't be in the 3000 point range.



if i can
>do this .what chance really does programs have against the pros who do nothing
>else ?
>>
>>
>>On August 09, 1999 at 13:42:09, walter irvin wrote:
>>
>>>On August 09, 1999 at 13:02:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 09, 1999 at 12:34:22, blass uri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On August 09, 1999 at 10:09:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 09, 1999 at 02:55:01, hgkjhg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then would you let me play against crafty on icc at 120 in 40.  I bit
>>>>>>>superchicken on one of the accounts at 15 10, but it's much harder to play
>>>>>>>against computers at such small times.  My handle is tarantula for this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't mind at all, although I should point out that I do spool such games
>>>>>>thru my "computer analysis" for verification.  IE if you use a computer, I
>>>>>>will definitely know...
>>>>>
>>>>>If the human do the computer's move only for part of the moves I do not see a
>>>>>way for you to know.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hint:  tactical accuracy.
>>>>
>>>>If he only uses a computer to avoid tactical mistakes, it will show up.  If
>>>>he only uses a computer for some moves and ignores it for others, tactical
>>>>errors will show up... either way it's a red flag...
>>>well the reason my rating is so low is it is based on very few games the 1616
>>>rating is based on 8 games in KY my only 8 tourn games i had played to that time
>>>. the 1200 some thing was a tourn that i was going through a divorce and i
>>>played badly,what hurt my rating the most was i was playing a 8 year old girl
>>>who had a rating of 950.she reminded me of my oldest girl sarah,who i was
>>>missing at the time.i took just about all her pieces but i did not have the
>>>heart to beat her ,so i let her draw. guess i'm only human not a computer.but
>>>i'm not going to lie to you when i'm on my game,i can play with anybody.right
>>>now i'm in training for the kings island open,which i will win ,because of the
>>>section im in .i'll be playing on icc in 2 weeks then i will challenge crafty
>>>.the only thing is i need a respectable time control,at least 15  15 my mouse
>>>dont move faster than that .im not saying i would win a match, what i'm saying
>>>is i wont be shut out,against anybody or any thing not including gm .
>>>as for the program i am not finished , programing is a lot harder and time
>>>consuming than playing chess thats for sure , also since im not a very good
>>>programmer compared to chess player .but it appears i have plenty of time as
>>>nobody is going to program chess the way i am .



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