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Subject: Re: give up

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:04:23 08/09/99

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On August 09, 1999 at 14:22:49, walter irvin wrote:

>On August 09, 1999 at 09:46:17, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:
>
>>Are you the Walter Irvin with a USCF rating of 1616? Or the Walter Irvin with a
>>USCF rating of 1250? If so, it is totally inconceivable that you are even
>>*remotely near* the strength of any of the top programs. I know...I am a USCF
>>Master (rated 500+ points higher than you), and I am not even near them.
>>
>>You were on here several months ago talking about how you had the best program
>>in the world, etc. But you refused to allow me to play it. You made an
>>outrageous claim then, and you are making an outrageous claim now.
>>
>>If you expect *anyone* here to give any credence at all to anything you say (and
>>not just about this...literally any comment you make will be considered trivial
>>unless you validate yourself on this one) you must prove your statement.
>>
>>Bob Hyatt offered to let you play Crafty on ICC. If you can beat Crafty (without
>>the aid of a computer on your end), then your statement may have some merit. But
>>unless you do this, you will be considered some random crank, who just logs on
>>every once in a while, and who obviously knows so little about computer and
>>chess that his statements should be ignored completely.
>>
>>
>>WHy do you post such statements if you are unwilling to back them up? They fly
>>in the face of *all* evidence and experience. You must realize that they appear
>>very peculiar to say the least.
>>
>>Chris Dorr
>>USCF Master
>well  the thing is i have played many more games vs computers than you , does
>not mean i better than you , maybe better against computers . its a possibility
>.plus my true rating is not 1616 ,1250 ect they are ratings based on see below
>posting .i think im some where around 2100 or so .but that will change as i have
>been practicing 6 or 7 hr. day every day .my new financial situation allows me
>to devote much more time than ever before .plus i will be able to compete a
>whole lot more .plus i have something you need to be champion i believe in
>myself 100%.
>>

If your real rating is 1600, then you really don't stand a snowball's chance
in you-know-where of beating a computer program on decent hardware, without
taking back moves or seeing analysis.  It just won't happen...



>>
>>On August 08, 1999 at 21:21:14, walter irvin wrote:
>>
>>>i just dont think it can be done .no one can build a chess program that i can
>>>not beat, not even me .hiarcs was doing good the first 3 or 4 games , now easy
>>>money .this coming from a under 2000 elo player .if i find it easy gm should
>>>find it childs play ?????????



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