Author: Mark Young
Date: 15:30:57 08/09/99
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On August 09, 1999 at 17:04:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 09, 1999 at 14:22:49, walter irvin wrote: > >>On August 09, 1999 at 09:46:17, Christopher R. Dorr wrote: >> >>>Are you the Walter Irvin with a USCF rating of 1616? Or the Walter Irvin with a >>>USCF rating of 1250? If so, it is totally inconceivable that you are even >>>*remotely near* the strength of any of the top programs. I know...I am a USCF >>>Master (rated 500+ points higher than you), and I am not even near them. >>> >>>You were on here several months ago talking about how you had the best program >>>in the world, etc. But you refused to allow me to play it. You made an >>>outrageous claim then, and you are making an outrageous claim now. >>> >>>If you expect *anyone* here to give any credence at all to anything you say (and >>>not just about this...literally any comment you make will be considered trivial >>>unless you validate yourself on this one) you must prove your statement. >>> >>>Bob Hyatt offered to let you play Crafty on ICC. If you can beat Crafty (without >>>the aid of a computer on your end), then your statement may have some merit. But >>>unless you do this, you will be considered some random crank, who just logs on >>>every once in a while, and who obviously knows so little about computer and >>>chess that his statements should be ignored completely. >>> >>> >>>WHy do you post such statements if you are unwilling to back them up? They fly >>>in the face of *all* evidence and experience. You must realize that they appear >>>very peculiar to say the least. >>> >>>Chris Dorr >>>USCF Master >>well the thing is i have played many more games vs computers than you , does >>not mean i better than you , maybe better against computers . its a possibility >>.plus my true rating is not 1616 ,1250 ect they are ratings based on see below >>posting .i think im some where around 2100 or so .but that will change as i have >>been practicing 6 or 7 hr. day every day .my new financial situation allows me >>to devote much more time than ever before .plus i will be able to compete a >>whole lot more .plus i have something you need to be champion i believe in >>myself 100%. >>> > >If your real rating is 1600, then you really don't stand a snowball's chance >in you-know-where of beating a computer program on decent hardware, without >taking back moves or seeing analysis. It just won't happen... I am glad you brought up the point about seeing the computers analysis. I know many players at the club who claimed they could beat or draw one of the top programs. In all the cases I have seen they could only do this if they could see the programs thinking lines. After I "showed them how to turn off the analysis." It was crush city for the programs, but of course they claim they never looked at the analysis when they were playing.:) In my state the best player is IM Mike Brooks, and we has just a hand full of masters and most of them a below 2300. There is no doubt in my mind that the best programs could beat or crush any play in my state at any over the board time control. > > > >>> >>>On August 08, 1999 at 21:21:14, walter irvin wrote: >>> >>>>i just dont think it can be done .no one can build a chess program that i can >>>>not beat, not even me .hiarcs was doing good the first 3 or 4 games , now easy >>>>money .this coming from a under 2000 elo player .if i find it easy gm should >>>>find it childs play ?????????
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