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Subject: Re: Difficult position for programs, at least for Crafty.

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 00:35:12 08/11/99

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On August 10, 1999 at 12:00:07, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 10, 1999 at 10:44:49, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>
>>On August 10, 1999 at 10:24:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 10, 1999 at 02:25:56, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 09, 1999 at 12:24:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 09, 1999 at 10:02:42, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hallo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>recently I came across a position from a game
>>>>>>Haenninnen - Szabo, Wageningen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The position is
>>>>>>FEN: 3r1rk/pp1q2b/3p2pp/PP1Np2n/2Pp1p/B2P2Pb/3QPPBP/R4RK w
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The game went on
>>>>>>19. Bxd6 Bxg2
>>>>>>20. Bxf8 Qh3
>>>>>>21. Bxg7 f3
>>>>>>22. exf3 Bxf3
>>>>>>23. Ne3  Kg7
>>>>>>24. Qb4  Rd7
>>>>>>25. Ra2  Nf6
>>>>>>White resigned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Programs have difficulties to find out that 19. Bxd6 is bad.
>>>>>>The whole line seems to be difficult at least for Crafty.
>>>>>>BTW Crafty produces a lot of debug messages on a Sun, not on a PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Enjoy
>>>>>>Bernhard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What is "a lot of debug messages"?  If you are getting oddball error messages
>>>>>then something is definitely wrong...
>>>>>
>>>>Messages like this:
>>>>captured a king
>>>>piece=5,from=51,to=44,captured=3
>>>>ply=16
>>>>My logfile is 5.2 Mb in size.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>As far as the position goes, the end has a B on F3, Q on h3, which is a known
>>>>>"null-move" killer...
>>>>
>>>>Oh, not known to me. But I feared it would be a null move problem again -:)
>>>>Kind regards
>>>>Bernhard
>>>
>>>
>>>That is definitely bad.  Such errors should never occur, and are only present
>>>to catch errors that I introduce when changing the code...  Can you post a
>>>FEN for aposition that will produce such an error?
>>
>>Of course
>>FEN: 3r1rk/pp1q2b/3p2pp/PP1Np2n/2Pp1p/B2P2Pb/3QPPBP/R4RK w
>>See above.
>>
>>BTW the hardware is a Ultra Sparc with 2 procs.
>>fpversion gives:
>> A SPARC-based CPU is available.
>> CPU's clock rate appears to be approximately 166.8 MHz.
>> Kernel says CPU's clock rate is 168.0 MHz.
>> Kernel says main memory's clock rate is 84.0 MHz.
>>
>> Sun-4 floating-point controller version 0 found.
>> An UltraSPARC chip is available.
>> FPU's frequency appears to be approximately 170.5 MHz.
>>
>> Use "-xtarget=ultra" code-generation option.
>>
>>The OS is Solaris 7 from May 99. It's the 64-bit version.
>>The compiler is gcc2.95
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Bernhard
>
>
>OK.. I overlooked that this was the same position discussed earlier.  I ran this
>a bunch of times with no strange output at all.  I'd guess that somehow the
>optimizations are going wrong...  try compiling without the -O at all, and then
>run the same test.  And keep adding optimizations back in until you do see the
>error.
>
>I ran with 1 cpu, 4 cpus, long and short search times, with none of that
>'captured a king' internal diagnostic error stuff at all...

Here my results.
Without -O , but with assembler code Crafty produces "captured a kink".
Without -O , and without assembler code Crafty looks fine.
With    -O3, and without assembler code Crafty dumps core from beginning.

May be the Sparc assembler code does'nt fit my system, or somthing is wrong for
target=SUN, since Crafty runs well under WinNT.

Kind regards
Bernhard



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