Author: Terry Ripple
Date: 14:41:35 08/12/99
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On August 12, 1999 at 15:29:30, James T. Walker wrote: >On August 11, 1999 at 22:32:52, Terry Ripple wrote: > >>On August 11, 1999 at 12:41:51, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>On August 10, 1999 at 17:05:39, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>On August 10, 1999 at 15:21:35, odell hall wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 10, 1999 at 14:56:01, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 10, 1999 at 14:44:51, odell hall wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 10, 1999 at 11:43:00, Brian Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On August 10, 1999 at 08:17:53, blass uri wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On August 10, 1999 at 08:13:48, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>In WCCC it didn't lose a single game and Karpov cannot beat it. So is it >>>>>>>>>>totally unbeaten? Maybe Kasparov should try :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Karpov did not beat it but it does not say that he cannot beat it. >>>>>>>>>The game was faster then tournament time control. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Uri >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What was the final result in the Karpov-Shredder match anyway (I think I was on >>>>>>>>vacation)? >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>I responded to the claim that karpov cannot beat it. >>>> >>>>I do not know if he could beat it at tournament time control but I know that >>>>karpov had a very good position so my impression is that he could beat shredder >>>>if he had more time. >>>> >>>>It is of course possible that shredder could play better if shredder had more >>>>time but the claim that karpov cannot beat shredder is unfair to karpov because >>>>karpov had not the opportunity to play against shredder4 at tournament time >>>>control. >>>> >>>>Uri >>>> >>> >>>Hello Uri, >>>Your point is well taken but.... What is "Tournament time control" now days? >>>The World Championships in Vegas are much shorter than 40/2. Those long time >>>controls are becomming less and less each year. Look at all the major >>>tournaments this year. What were the time controls? Times are changing. The >>>GM's must adjust to what is happening. If this gives even more of an advantage >>>to computers, it cannot be helped. Shorter time controls are the wave of the >>>future. Chess will not become as popular as other games without making the >>>games shorter and "watchable" by the public. >>>The above represents only my uninformed opinion and no one else may be held >>>responsible (Including me). >>>Jim Walker >>------------ >>>Hi Jim, >> This years "World Open" had their time control at 40/2hrs + Game/60',now this >>is what you call a fairly nice time control. As time controls get faster,- >>our chess games become "more" superficial!!! >> >>Regards,Terry >>> > >Hello Terry, >I agree, the quality of the play suffers as time goes down but that's just part >of the equation and humans should get used to it. The GM's who think they are >going to create a "Masterpiece" game every time they play need to get a grip on >what's real. I believe "The Imortal" game was actually played pretty fast. >Those things just happen and are not created intentionally like a painting. For >instance Shirov's game the other night was a joy to watch unfold but I'm sure >was not "All as planned". If Chess is ever going to be marketable to the public >it needs to get faster. Watching a 6 hour game on the internet is taking a lot >of quality time from other things. Watching 6 games simultaneously is an >improvement because something is happening somewhere. I look forward to the >finals but I'm afraid it will be boreing most of the time. >Jim Walker Hi Jim, I also agree to what you are saying, but where is it going to end? I`am afraid of the future for chess as time controls get faster & faster. The games will start becoming so superficial as time controls get faster that it won't be nearly as enjoyable to analyse the game afterwards, because the game won't have near the depth or complexities and probaly few if any brilliancies! It's too bad that our society is becoming so fast and this is one of the reasons why all the terrible things are happening today. Regards,Terry
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