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Subject: Re: Is Sapphire 2 playing low Master Strength at 40/2hrs?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 18:07:54 08/13/99

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On August 13, 1999 at 20:56:33, Terry Ripple wrote:
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>Hi once again James,
> Lets assume that SapphireII just made Master strength at "2200". Now lets
>assume what you say is accurate in regard to your rating fluctuating from 1700
>to 1800 USCF. By these figures you should win between 5.3% to 9.1% of your games
>against SapphireII. Now just say that it is only 2050 USCF, that would mean that
>you will win between 11.8% to 19.2% against SapphireII. My Expert friend won
>12.5 out of 46 games which gives him a win factor of 27.2%. If these figures are
>correct that are stated by the USCF,that would make my friend's win % show that
>his opponent was 170 USCF points stronger than him (2065+170= 2235 USCF Rating
>for SapphireII).This of course is only accurate if my friend is still rated
>2065, but i can say that he is still active in our club but didn't play any
>recent tournaments in the past year.
>  I hope that the future brings us the answers to these questions of man
>vrs.-machine and how strong the Monsters really are. Maybe the Rebel matches
>will help us understand a little more about our favorite beasts!

You cannot predict from a small set of matches the ELO of any single opponent.
You need a large number of games against a large number of opponents.

Therefore "Opponent A did better than predicted against X" is not a proof of ELO
one way or the other.  Neither is "Opponent A did worse than predicted against
X"  They both lend a small data point one way or the other but it is not
verified until a broad spectrum of tests have been completed.

Your final point is well put.  We really don't know much about human/machine
competition because we have so little data.  Experiments like the Rebel GM
matches are groundbreaking in this regard.



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