Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:03:12 08/13/99
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On August 13, 1999 at 06:35:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >At Paderborn there were never more than 2 terminals showing DB junior. >It was with BIG Capitals. It's main problem and weakness was that it >played without book obviously. Most of the times replying d5. Question 1: Could you see every workstation on planet earth? IE you do realize that there are _lots_ of other machines around besides the ones you saw in Paderborn? Just because you saw two machines there logged in to the DB Junior web machine, doesn't mean there aren't dozens _outside_ of Paderborn doing so. As I mentioned before... it is stateless. As a result, they didn't deal with book moves at all. They didn't catch repetitions. They didn't catch 50 move rule draws. >It searched for a lot of seconds a move. Sure... Imagine building an interface that lets dozens of web browsers connect simultaneously and feed you chess positions. Just because your machine is connected, doesn't mean that you are the only one getting access to the machine, any more than when you connect to CCC, you are the only person accessing their web service and sending html-stuff back and forth... > >First move about 14 seconds. It had its own time display. So lag or >network delay didn't matter. I had to wait sometimes if bad luck for >a minute, and it showing it had thought only for a few seconds. you saw the "browser" clock. The time ticking on the browser end. Not the time ticking on the server end... IE check out xboard. The clock runs locally. When you are playing a game, unplug your net cable. What happens to the clock? > >if IBM with big capital colorful letters says DEEP BLUE JUNIOR, >then why do you argue that? the 'core' was deep blue. I am not arguing. I am reporting what _Hsu_ told me via email, to correct a wrong impression being given here. Whether you agree or not doesn't matter. I trust Hsu. It is his 'box'. I assume he will tell us what it is doing and how it is doing it. He always has in the past. > >Does IBM LIE? > No. You had access to a deep blue junior engine, but with several features turned off for the stateless interface. And with lots of users competing for the chess cycles it offered. You can't see outside Paderborn. But I am amazed you would conclude that nobody else was using it. You do understand the web? > >> "it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your >> mouth and remove all doubt..."
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