Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 04:58:17 08/15/99
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On August 15, 1999 at 05:15:08, Micheal Cummings wrote: >On August 15, 1999 at 04:47:50, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On August 15, 1999 at 03:25:48, Micheal Cummings wrote: >> >>>After seeing two draws and a loss for Rebel, my second favorite program after >>>CM6K is sadly becoming sorry to look at. I do not think that this is a good >>>sales pitch for Rebel. Its fine getting the publicity in playing these games, >>>but if you cannot get a win then things start to get old real fast. >>> >>>The first two games drew some comment in CCC. But I have seen very little with >>>this third game. I think that if after 5 games Rebel has not won and it is still >>>being played on the same hardware, either change the plan or dump it. Rebel can >>>not become a program that tries to compete against strong humans and does not >>>win. >>> >>>I know more games needed to be played with humans against computers and this is >>>great. But my current view of Rebel and the upcoming Rebel windows realease is >>>that the partnership with chesspartner interface is a step down and I think the >>>current non winning Rebel on powerful hardware is not doing it any service. >>> >>>Lets hope rebel can turn this down period around and get back on track. I am >>>many others like winners. Appearence is everything. And Rebel is not appearing >>>well at the moment. Lets hope this changes in Rebels favour soon. >> >>GM Sorin said Rebel played very well. Yesterday GM Rohde told me he hadn't >>seen Rebel make one single bad move. Personally I am very satisfied with >>these 2 draws in a row. I have seen these GM's at Aegon crushing computers >>and I was always impressed in the way they did that, slowly killing the >>silicon on positional grounds. >> >>GM's are by far superior when the topic is understanding the game of chess >>and that will remain for a very long time and maybe even after 100 years. >> >>Two years ago the discussion was, do computers play at IM level. We seem >>to have passed this discussion as we now wonder about the GM strength. >> >>I have to much respect for GM's and their skills of chess to say Rebel >>plays on GM level yet. Let's wait for next games. >> >>Ed Schroder > >Hi Ed > >You are right, but I am just a bit sad that Rebel has not won yet. Rebel 10 I >like, along with CM6K. But would you say that Rebel would outplay a GM or would >it be that a GM would stuff up and Rebel would take advantage of it. > >On the current hardware which do you think your program would be. Outplay, or >win from a GM stuff up. When I look at the 3 games in total I do believe it is possible for Rebel to get even in score after say 10 games, meaning 5-5 as a result. Time will tell but I am more optimistic then when I started this GM challenge. Ed Schroder
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