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Subject: Re: Computers are Draw Masters VS Grandmasters.

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 15:29:46 08/15/99

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On August 15, 1999 at 17:05:12, blass uri wrote:

>
>On August 15, 1999 at 15:05:58, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>On August 15, 1999 at 10:16:03, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On August 15, 1999 at 08:14:37, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 15, 1999 at 04:55:23, Tania Devora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice game Ed !!!! Rebel 10 are playing a very strong chess. Very solid.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think that Mr Rhode has very much experience  and he know very well how to
>>>>>play against programs, he is a very good Grand Master too.
>>>>>
>>>>>Congratulations Ed !!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rebel 10 Century ! I can't wait to see this program!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Greetings!
>>>>>
>>>>>Tania.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks. I hope GM Rohde will find some time to comment yesterdays game. But
>>>>at the moment he is very busy with the Las Vegas event. Actually GM Rohde
>>>>had no time at all to play Rebel but he still decided to help me out for
>>>>August as I could not find a GM for that month. I like to take the
>>>>opportunity now to thank him in public for that!
>>>
>>>I think that he did it for the 250$.
>>>He wanted a fast draw because of this reason.
>>>
>>>I think that you should continue the game and not agree to draw after 38 moves.
>>>I think that if GM's want a draw they have to play.
>>>
>>>The position is not a simple draw.
>>>I tried some fast engine-engine games in my computer and there are chances for
>>>both sides to win.
>>>
>>>I find it surprising that other GM's did not want the 250$ in August.
>>>
>>>I know that GM's are not rich people and they should be happy with 250$ or even
>>>200$ for one day.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>Uri, chess could have more followers if whole  games finished in checkmate or in
>>a very simple draw, but that is not our reality.
>>In the final position of the game Rodhe x Rebel, I don't see chances for none
>>of the sides.
>>
>>Paulo Soares
>
>I see chances.
>I did an engine-engine game (40 moves per 5 minutes) and black  traded the
>pieces and won in  a pawn endgame.
>Both sides saw that black is winning the pawn endgame only after many moves so I
>guess that black has chances to win in computer-computer game also at slower
>time control.
>
>Rodhe is not a computer but it is not clear that the game is going to be drawn.
>I prefer to see Rebel playing until a clear draw position that I am sure that
>the result in comp-comp games is going to be a draw.

You can not do this to a GM not even an IM. They would feel insulted. This
is not comp-comp.

Ed Schroder


>Uri



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