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Subject: Re: Hiarcs7.32 Mark? Short & Long Hi-Mark Test Results!

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 20:31:47 08/15/99

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On August 15, 1999 at 13:43:29, Mark Young wrote:

>On August 15, 1999 at 12:15:34, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On August 15, 1999 at 04:38:32, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>
>>>On August 15, 1999 at 03:43:41, Keith Kitson wrote:
>>>
>>>>From the discussions here I get the impression that there must be some research
>>>>that can be done to generate a table showing reasonably optimium hash memory
>>>>sizes for a given time allocation and speed of processor.  Has anyone done any
>>>>research in this area?
>>>>
>>>>I suspect for anyone that is not aware of the hash/processor speed/time control
>>>>ratio affect, games played with Hiarcs732 may not always be running Hiarcs at
>>>>its optimum settings.
>>>>
>>>>I would expect in future relases of strong programs the author should give more
>>>>guidance on optimum settings for the parameters mentioned above, where the
>>>>program strength could be affected.  Better still how about an intelligent
>>>>algorithm that is labelled say 'strongest setting' that determines the speed of
>>>>processor, time controls set and either automaticallky sets or suggests the
>>>>optimum hash for the determined parms?
>>>>
>>>>Do we have any programs that do this at present?
>>>
>>>I believe Fritz does this accuratly but Hiarcs7.32 don't work properly in the
>>>Fritz interface.
>>>
>>>Regards,Terry
>>>>
>>>>Keith
>>Hello Keith,
>>I believe you are wrong about Hiarcs.  Forget the HiarcsMark.  You can only use
>>it to compare your results vs other machines when using the same size hash
>>settings.  Mark (Hiarcs Programmer) said when playing a game with Hiarcs, please
>>give it all the hash memory you can.  I have found this is true.  I'm currently
>>playing Hiarcs with 200 Meg of hash table memory at Blitz.  It works great!  I
>>have currently played 988 blitz games of Hiarcs 7.32 vs Fritz 5.32 on equal
>>hardware (2 computers). The score indicates that Hiarcs has a 12 elo point
>>advantage over Fritz.  So they are too close to call and there is nothing wrong
>>with Hiarcs.
>
>I am also running Hiarcs 7.32 with max hash at all time controls. It works fine
>and does not hurt Hiarcs 7.32 at all and even helps it some I now believe. Your
>results pretty much mirror mine, I also show Hiarcs 7.32 better then Fritz by
>about 18 points in head to head play, but with fewer games only about 200. When
>I calculate all game played by Hiarcs at all time controls against all other
>programs. Hiarcs 7.32 elo advantage is almost 50 points better then Fritz, do
>you show the same.

Hello,
No, my results from over 3600 games has Hiarcs only 3 points above Fritz.  Fritz
has played 1786 games and Hiarcs has played 1578 games so far.   This is all at
blitz times like 3/1 4/0 5/0.
Jim Walker



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