Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:11:01 08/16/99
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On August 15, 1999 at 03:25:48, Micheal Cummings wrote: >After seeing two draws and a loss for Rebel, my second favorite program after >CM6K is sadly becoming sorry to look at. I do not think that this is a good >sales pitch for Rebel. Its fine getting the publicity in playing these games, >but if you cannot get a win then things start to get old real fast. > I think you are wrong here. Those of us "doing this stuff" would be quite happy to draw a series of 40/2 games with GM players. Because that is a _very_ good result when you know what GM players are capable of. IE if you ask _any_ program author what he would like, I doubt _any_ would say that in 2 games, 2 draws would be considered bad. Or in 3 games 2 draws and 1 loss would be considered bad. Only a very few think that computers should actually beat GM players at 40/2. I think Rebel played great in the last two games. I don't see a thing that Ed should be embarassed about. >The first two games drew some comment in CCC. But I have seen very little with >this third game. I think that if after 5 games Rebel has not won and it is still >being played on the same hardware, either change the plan or dump it. Rebel can >not become a program that tries to compete against strong humans and does not >win. > I don't think there are any other programs that would do any better, IMHO. GM players are _difficult_ to beat in 40/2 games... The tactical tricks, the time mistakes, just don't play as big a factor. In blitz games on ICC, you bet I am disappointed when I don't beat _any_ GM 8 of every 10 games. But this isn't blitz... And everyone looking at the great blitz results and then extrapolating to 40/2rh games are making a big mistake... >I know more games needed to be played with humans against computers and this is >great. But my current view of Rebel and the upcoming Rebel windows realease is >that the partnership with chesspartner interface is a step down and I think the >current non winning Rebel on powerful hardware is not doing it any service. Rebel's hardware isn't 'powerful'. There are plenty of machines running PIII at 600mhz now, which is just as fast as the 600mhz AMD he is using. There are many programs running on multiprocessors that are far faster. So he is just using "OK" hardware, not "outa-sight good" hardware. > >Lets hope rebel can turn this down period around and get back on track. I am >many others like winners. Appearence is everything. And Rebel is not appearing >well at the moment. Lets hope this changes in Rebels favour soon. It looks pretty good to my experienced eye. 5 years ago a GM would have run him off the board. Or any of us on micro hardware.
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