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Subject: Re: FIDE KO Semi-Finalist TPRs

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 22:11:39 08/19/99

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On August 20, 1999 at 00:04:08, Stephen A. Boak wrote:

>I have three points to make:
>
>1. I looked at FIDE site, list of TOP 100 Men, July 1, 1999 rating list, and it
>matched 4 of the 5 players I mentioned in my above posts.  Nisipeanu was not in
>the TOP 100, but I read another post in another thread above and the figure I
>used for Nisi is what the other person claims is in the FIDE July 1, 1999 list.
>
>2. I made a mistake replying to KarensDad since I was thinking of my calculated
>TPR ratings when I replied, and not the Ave Opp Rtgs he was discussing--sorry
>about that!  I see I do make errors--hmmm.
>
>3. Here are the requested additional calculations (Player ratings are
>unchanged, and are from July 1, 1999 FIDE List, best I can verify):
>
>	              polgar	adams	akopian	khalifman   nisipeanu
>Player	               2671	2708	2646	2628	    2584
>Ave Opp with Rd 1      		        2637	2636	    2637
>Ave Opp without Rd 1   2592	2664    2655	2653	    2664
>
>As pointed out by KarinsDad, without Rd 1 opponents in the calculations the ave
>opp rtgs faced by Akopian, Khalifman and Nisipeanu are closer to the ave opp rtg
>faced by Adams (but *not* Polgar, who faced a lower ave opp rtg).  Of course,
>the three latter names also played *more* rounds than Polgar and Adams, who were
>eliminated at earlier rounds, and Adams played one more round than Polgar, so
>there no 'apples to apples' comparison on the bottom row above.  If I have
>compared apples to oranges and you want apples to apples, please let me know
>which apples you want compared and I will oblige.  :)
>
>  --Steve Boak

We all make mistakes. When you posted that you used the FIDE start ratings, I
thought that meant the FIDE seeding ratings (which used the January ratings for
some unknown reason). Also, one of the russian chess pages had much a higher
rating for Akopian, but that may have been re-calculated due to this match. So,
it "appeared" that you were not using the July ratings.

One mistake for you. One mistake for me.

I like apple pie best when comparing, not orange juice. ;)

KarinsDad :)



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