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Subject: Re: What is a bug and what is a feature?

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 04:15:35 08/24/99

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On August 23, 1999 at 11:11:35, KarinsDad wrote:

>The position you are taking is an arrogant one of:

>We are the programmers. We are god. We know what is right. KarinsDad has not
>even played the program, so he is "prejudiced and talking nonsense". He "does
>not know what a bug is". How much more arrogant can you get Thorsten? You think
>that since you are an intelligent programmer that nobody else has a mind and is
>capable of rational thought?


The arrongance is on your side.
I am no programmer. But i know that when people talk about books they have never
read, and talk about movies they have never seen, and talk about people they
don't know and evaluate programs they have never installed nor bought, than
these people have prejudices.
I don't know if you have a mind.
I am not sure if you are capable of rational thoughts. I can only guess you are.
But this would be a prejudice too.


> You think that one must PLAY CSTal in order to be
>able to distinguish between a bug and a feature? You think that people such as
>myself that have been in the computer industry for 20 years and have been
>playing chess for 30 years are incapable of knowing a bug in a chess program
>when they read about it?

I don't know where you have been for 30 years.
a program that is trying to emulate human playing style oversteps a time
control.
you call it a bug. i wonder why !
the program is even named after a human beeing.



>Sorry to disappoint you pal, but I am not the only one with this position on
>this forum. And, some of the other people who agree with me HAVE purchased
>CSTal. And, some of the other people who agree with me HAVE been writing chess
>programs for decades.

If they don't like cstal they should send it back to the producer or to
the dealer. nobody forces you to buy it.
nobody needs you to buy it.


>What you are describing COULD be a feature IF a person playing the program could
>turn it off and on. But without that capability, it's just another bug. We ALL
>understand your position of human-like play, we just do not understand you
>position of human-like mistakes having to be forced down the throat of your
>customers. It's unfortunate that you are incapable of understanding our
>position.

as i said: the arrogance is on your side.


>KarinsDad :)

sign with your real name than we can talk about your 30 years of experience
in this field.



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