Author: Mark Young
Date: 10:13:39 08/24/99
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On August 24, 1999 at 12:45:30, Terry Presgrove wrote: >On August 24, 1999 at 08:28:48, Shep wrote: > >>On August 24, 1999 at 04:02:10, rich wrote: >> >>>First of all, how can you know for sure this person is a cheater? >>>Innocent until found guilty, anyone ?!? >>>Second, I can't find any evidence in any of the posts in this thread. >>>Third, maybe all of you just can't realize that some unrated players >>>are very good chessplayers.I have myself beaten a GM once(I'm 1761 club-rating) >> >>Seconded. I happen to have quite a few friends who haven't played in rated >>tournaments in years (so they have no current ELO/USCF/DWZ rating whatsoever), >>yet still manage to play close to - and sometimes above - master strength. >> >>I think if that happens for about a dozen people I know, how many of them can >>you meet in a crowded club such as ICC? Don't take the equation >>"unrated=beginner" for granted. >> >>--- >>Shep > > Hi Shep > > I agree with you that there are allot of very good unrated players > that are capable of winning against top programs. But three in a row in blitz > 5 5 using tactics without anti-computer techniques? Never using less than 3 > seconds in the 3 0 game log is building up considerable evidence. Plus you > have the experience of the operator who has watched thousands of comp vs. > human games stretching over three decades. I'm not saying it is impossible but > you would have to use scientific notation to compute the odds. I do agree a > player is innocent until proven guilty and am opposed to using names/handles > in an accusing manner in this forum unless there is clear condemning evidence > presented. The real question is why do we even care about this, the games are meaningless, the ratings are meaningless. Nothing people post, say, or do will stop people from cheating. What do you expect from games played over the internet. I get hit all the time by people cheating with computers when I am testing a new program online, but it does not make much sense to bitch about it on CCC, or make protest after protest to the admin of fics or icc etc. I have better things to do with my time, like play more chess:) > > TP
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