Author: rich
Date: 10:24:38 08/24/99
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On August 24, 1999 at 10:05:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On August 24, 1999 at 04:02:10, rich wrote:
>
>>First of all, how can you know for sure this person is a cheater?
>>Innocent until found guilty, anyone ?!?
>
>If you had read _my_ post, you would have noticed that I did look at the
>games carefully, and ran them thru my 'computer screening' methodology. And
>that I reported this person to the FICS admins.
>
>He was _definitely_ cheating.
> Could you explain this "computer screening methodology" ?
>
>
>
>>Second, I can't find any evidence in any of the posts in this thread.
>>Third, maybe all of you just can't realize that some unrated players
>>are very good chessplayers.I have myself beaten a GM once(I'm 1761 club-rating)
>>and from time to time I win CM 6000 in long games(I'm a CM connaisseur).
>>Furthermore a friend of mine ( unrated, never participates in tournament of any
>>kind)regularly whoops my bottom at the chessboard.Every time I play him I
>>FEEL I am getting slowly, positionally grinded down by a 2400 player.
>
>Beating a GM one game out of how many? That is a _lot_ easier than beating
>Crafty 3 games in a row, something that I have _never_ seen any GM player do.
>
> A: Out of 1 game May I ask for statistics?(crafty vs. GM's , number of
games and wins losses draws)
>
>>Actually it feels like playing Karpov or Petrosjan.Oh and by the way did I
>>mention that he(my friend) has played my CM 6000 with a record of 13 wins,
>>1 draw and 1 loss?
>>
>
>
>it is easy to do this in uncontrolled conditions. Watching the analysis
>window. Taking back moves. Slow computer. etc... He should try dropping
>over to ICC and demonstrating his skill against some of the very strong
>programs there where he has to play like he would in a real game. I'd bet
>he has _zero_ chances of beating _any_ program 13 times. Unless he plays a
>million games or two.
>
> The conditions were not uncontrolled.The games were played at my home,
without aids of any kind at G/35
>
>
>> So that's that.Thinking somebody is a cheater is not enough.
>>Hard evidence is required, IMHO
>
>
>I agree. But it is not hard to figure out if you go over the games with a
>careful eye and use a program to check for blunders (or the lack thereof).
So if someone doesn't drop a piece in a blitz game against Crafty that person
is likely to have cheated.?!?? Get a grip.Could it be that you are simply
underestimating human tactical ability?I know some players that are tactical
genuises with ~1900 elo and no better because they are bad strategicallly.
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