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Subject: Re: Amazing human...? = This whole thread is silly

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 11:05:06 08/24/99

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On August 24, 1999 at 13:24:38, rich wrote:

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>
> So if someone doesn't drop a piece in a blitz game against Crafty that person
>is likely to have cheated.?!?? Get a grip.Could it be that you are simply
>underestimating human tactical ability?I know some players that are tactical
>genuises with ~1900 elo and no better because they are bad strategicallly.

I think it is not Robert underestimating human tactical ability, but you
drastically overestimating it. Even tactical geniuses need time. To not drop a
pawn in a complex position in 3 to 7 seconds (the range of time used by the
person James was talking about) is the work of someone who is extremely
experienced in chess (i.e. GM level) or the work of a cheater. I doubt very much
you know tactical geniuses with ~1900 elo (i.e. they may be sharp, but they are
not geniuses or their rating would be much higher) since computers can play 2300
elo as tactical geniuses without having a shread of strategy in them.

Bobby Fischer once missed a mate in one in a standard time game. How can someone
of his calibre miss a mate in one? I forget who the players were (one of them
may have been Fine) where one GM missed a mate in two followed by his opponent
missing a mate in two. And these are GMs we are talking about.

It is unreasonable to think that even a tactical genius will be 100% sharp
throughout one entire blitz game, let alone three in a row. If a player takes 4
to 5 seconds for most every move, does not make any minor tactical mistakes (I'm
talking 1/4 pawn here, not even a full pawn), then the handwriting is on the
wall. People can claim that it's "possible" for these types of events to occur,
but statistically speaking, people have been sent to jail on a lot less evidence
and on less probable of events.

Note: This person took 5 seconds on 12 of the first 21 moves. He then took 4
seconds on 14 of the last 19 moves. This implies someone getting more and more
used to operating a program in the background. The consistency of time, lack of
quick 1 or 2 second moves, and lack of moves over 7 seconds is extremely
noteworthy in a blitz game. Go check out a bunch of GM games against computers
and see if they are as consistent.

KarinsDad :)



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