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Subject: Re: Amazing human/Cheaters/Other Questions

Author: Zachariah Amela

Date: 14:04:01 08/24/99

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>I have suggested that the only reasonable way to control cheating is to control
>the client software.  ICC ought to take their blitzin interface, and modify it
>and the server so that blitzin is the _only_ interface that will work.  And then
>they can take countermeasures inside blitzin to address the cheating issue,
>without having all the other interfaces that would not have the countermeasures
>included.
>
>Until that happens, it is hopeless...

How about FICS?  Should they/could the alter Blitzin to be their only client?

Also, isn't Blitzen only for Win right now?  I could be wrong.  What about
Unix/Linux/Solaris, Mac and NeXT users?

>
>Not quite what I said.  I gave some patches to Tim Mann (for winboard/xboard)
>that recongizes when the opponent is in the 'computer' list.  It will then
>tell the chess engine by sending a command "computer" to the program.  If a
>person is using a computer, and has a (C) on their handle, then this code works
>fine.  But it doesn't work if the person is 'cheating' as it won't have any
>idea the guy is using a computer.
>

Understood.


>
>Not that I can verify.  I can't think of another GM that hasn't, however, from
>Karpov on down.  I tend to think Kasparov has not played Crafty, because the
>last comment I saw from him was something like "It is weak, actually".  Of
>course, I'd be more than happy to take him on in a blitz match to see how weak
>it really is.  :)

Hmmm.....limited comment form Mr. Kasparov.  One thing Crafty isn't, is weak.

>
>But actually, playing him isn't a real priority of mine, because if Crafty won,
>we'd have to put up with whining about poor conditions, too noisy, the computer
>had help, etc.  IE there would be _no way_ to win against him... even to win
>would be to lose, IMHO.

Lol!  Whatever do you mean?  Lol...

>
>I prefer to play all the other GM players that _do not_ have the obnoxious
>attitude.  There are plenty of them, with Kamsky right at the top of the list,
>but with many others that are equally as congenial.

Interesting.  Do you have PGN games of Crafty vs. Gm's?  Thanks!



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