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Subject: Re: Change of Subject

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 18:23:59 08/24/99

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On August 24, 1999 at 20:46:14, James Robertson wrote:

>On August 24, 1999 at 20:28:19, KarinsDad wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 1999 at 19:18:15, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:
>>
>>>Are you talking about Bullet against other progs or against humans?
>>>
>>>And by the way : I bet Fritz5 is strongest, cause it is a very fast searcher,
>>>much faster than Hiarcs and Genius.
>>
>>I get confused on this fast searcher is better at speed chess issue.
>>
>>From my understanding, Fritz5 (.32) handles about 10 times as many nodes per
>>second as Hiarcs7.32 (give or take on the same hardware).
>>
>>To me, this would mean that Fritz5 would get 1+ ply deeper, but well below 2
>>ply. So, Fritz5 would go down about 7+ ply on a fast system in 1 second and
>>Hiarcs7 would go down about 6 ply in 1 second. Does this really correspond to a
>>REAL significant ability considering that it's only one more ply?
>>
>>Doesn't 1 ply only correspond to about 50-70 elo (when you are talking so few
>>ply) and couldn't that be recovered in a lot of cases due to the heavier
>>evaluation in a slow searcher (i.e. there are other considerations than just
>>material gain)? To me, it would seem like the fast searcher would not have THAT
>>big of an advantage.
>>
>>KarinsDad :)
>
>Also, remember that better move ordering makes fewer NPS. So Hiarcs could in
>fact be searching deeper and have a lower NPS. My program's NPS has fallen from
>(if I remember correctly) around 600k/second to about 100k/second and the 100/k
>second plays _way_ better chess, bullet or otherwise.
>
>James
------------
 I read quotes that stated that Hiarcs7.32 is considered by a far margin, the-
strongest 1 min-Blitz player in the world!!!

Regards,Terry



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