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Subject: Re: And the reason to purchase CSTal is what again?To Thorsten Czub

Author: rich

Date: 06:49:17 08/25/99

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On August 24, 1999 at 15:37:51, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 24, 1999 at 13:51:00, rich wrote:
>
>>Chessplayers hate losing and love winning!
>>Do you think Mikhail Tal would have sat there at move 39 with 5 mins left
>>only to lose on time? Why do you think Tal made speculative sacrifices all the
>>time? The answer is he wanted to win.He didn't wan't to play dull draws .
>>But in order to win a game the time-controls must be respected.
>>Thus I think it is safe to say that Mikhail Tal would have played a move and
>>at least not lost on time.
>>CHESSLAW: IF you overstep the time limit you LOSE the game.
>>If CST2 doesn't follow this law then it is not playing chess, it is playing
>>something else...
>
>Nonsense. if all chessplayers who overstep time limit
>do NOT play chess but something else, i would know many many NON-chess players.
>Accept this: losing on time is the sense of the clocks.
>it is part of the game to overstep time. a program that does NOT
>overstep time is like a human beeing never going to the toilette.
>Although in movies often they don't go to the toilette, you have to accept
>that this is NOT normal.
>Humans overstep time.
>Cstal too.
>so - anything is ok.


  I agree.Humans overstep time limits frequently, but when they do; they
know they have lost the game.Chessprogs should also know this and admit
the loss, if/when they lose on time.

 I think it is time you told us wether Cstal is programmed to play like
a human, or to play like Mikhail Tal.Because these are two different things.
I repeat: Winning was everything for Mikhail Tal.He would NEVER NEVER
have sat there, like an idiot, at move 39 with 5 mins to make the first
time control, without moving.

 A human (club player, intermediate player) might have lost on time in  this
case.But not a grandmaster, and surely not Mikhail Tal.



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