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Subject: Re: Amazing human/Cheaters/Other Questions

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:22:30 08/25/99

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On August 25, 1999 at 10:55:42, Zachariah Amela wrote:

>
>>you reach the heart of the problem.  Do you (a) eliminate cheating almost
>>completely by providing a closed client-to-server package that uses some
>>clever encryption to prevent unauthorized access?  And, at the same time,
>>take on supporting a dozen different platforms with all the work that
>>entails?  or (b) ignore the problem because it takes a huge amount of work
>>to do (a).
>>
>>Right now, (b) is the course of action everyone follows.  But sooner or later,
>>something is going to have to be done...  perhaps one idea is to provide a
>>'certified' client that authenticates itself with the server, and give members
>>the choice of only playing certified clients on the other end.  Still allow
>>the many non-certified choices, but make everyone aware that they may well be
>>a pirate's den of sorts...
>>
>
>One method is after a person is caught cheating is to remove them FOREVER more.
>This would at least but a little fear in the hearts of cheaters.  Right now, I
>think you are suspended, right?  I don't know, as I don't cheat.


It is hard to do this, because they 'come back'.  Via a different ISP so
IP address tracking doesn't work.  Different email (so many free email
servers like hotmail) addresses.  IE you kick them off, they come back.

Someone once said "keep your friends close, but keep your enemies even closer".
So perhaps kicking them off is a bad idea...




>
>>I suspect Kasparov knows what I think about his mannerisms in NY.  And that
>>was just a 'dig' in the reverse direction.  Plus he is supporting ChessBase
>>commercial engines with various sorts of public endorsements.  I'm not losing
>>any sleep over it, because I get plenty of contra-comments from a host of other
>>GM players, including a couple that saw Kasparov's comments and labeled them
>>"stupid" or "ignorant" (the GM's words, not mine...)
>>
>
>Yes.  Well that's too bad.  I would kind of like to see Kasparov vs. Crafty
>running on a Quad Xeon machine w/ Linux.  That would quite a show.

there are other players just as good or better at blitz.  Lots of 'showtimes"
left to see. :)




>
>>I actually have pgn for _every_ game crafty has played on the chess servers.
>>About 100-200mb last time I looked.  But I don't have any good way to extract
>>things.  I wrote a small C program to go thru and extract results so that I can
>>tell you how many wins/losses/draws/disconnects for any handle you want...
>
>Oh!  Interesting.  Is the data stored in one hugh text file or something?  If it
>is PGN, isn't there a way to parse out certain games/positions?  One could learn
>quite a bit from studying Crafty verses people all over the world.
>
>Thanks.


Yes.. one huge pgn collection...



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