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Subject: Re: Snobbery on ICC servers I cannot get a Game !

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:22:56 08/26/99

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On August 26, 1999 at 01:54:13, odell hall wrote:

>On August 26, 1999 at 01:04:19, Bradley Woodward wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 1999 at 00:23:54, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>  What's the Deal on Icc, it seems practically every computer has some kind of
>>>formula, I cannot get a decent game of chess.  Not only does humans refuse to
>>>play you if you are a computer, but also computers won't play you. Some of these
>>>operators protect their ratings as if they personally earned them themselves! I
>>>think the whole matter is getting a little rediculous. I excluse these comments
>>>to data, and singacrafty, also superchicken who seem to be generous as far as
>>>allowing games with computers.
>>
>>Well, I've run three 'puters on ICC...  MrsLovett (defunct), JudgeTurpin and
>>Beadle.  All of them will play anybody who is registered, established and not a
>>free week trail person.  If you've got a (C), you can play any standard game you
>>like.  Oh - MrsLovett was a crafty clone, and wouldn't play other clones.  I've
>>also noplayed a number of cheats and computer operators who don't list their
>>program or machine specs.
>>
>>Of course if you're only targetting the highest rated computers on ICC, then I
>>can't help you.  My comps rate around 2500-2600.
>
>
> Yes I forgot to put judge turpin in the list of cool computers. I notice it
>will allow anyone to play it.

Thanks,
note that many puters have consequent formula's,
all DIEP accounts have in fact.

Your complaint is quite right about some kids that play now and then
a game and some manuals.

Generally it goes like this: dudes play you. If they lose games,
then they stop playing. If they win, then they keep on playing.

If such a dude plays a similar dude that's having also too much
rating for it's compu, then directly they put in their formula !computer
or noplay the other dude. Generally the one losing is doing that.

This behaviour sucks. This behaviour is because most play anonymeously
on icc. If you want to play more than a few weeks on icc, then you gotta
be fair, instead of playing the ones where you think you can win rating
from.

Sure, anyone can win rating from mofongo, but its operator picks
simply only 3 0 matches against humans, or tries to 'milk' rating from
a weak compu, in all cases using the engine with which the kid (12 years
of age) thinks he can win with.

Very laughable are crafty-crafty matches too. Secret (using
crafty at alpha) versus mofongo at 1 0 for 100 games or so.
Kid versus kid. Both kids not watching games as they have to eat
or something.

But generally most formula's are quite nice. Moron formula is
playing standard *anyone* above 2000. And *anyone* in blitz above 2300.

In past i had with DIEP and DIEPX accounts also set that guests could
play it too. I dropped that as hardly anyone plays computers unrated.

I think this formula is very fair. Moron is DIEP at a dual 550 celeron
and it's idling a lot last 3 weeks. Mainly comp-comp games it's playing.

For some weird reason most GMs prefer 3 0 against Mofongo... ...the idiots.
I also added a 3 0 seek to moron recently and to my big surprise quite
a number of idiots click it and play.

Gotta be Kasparov among them too... ...as he has to confuse 'diep' in
blue letters with 'deep blue'

vars moron
Variable settings of Moron:

   rated=1 wild=0 time=5 inc=0 noescape=0
   minseek=0 maxseek=9999 manualaccept=0 useformula=0
   open=1 ropen=1 wopen=1 ccopen=1 mood=0 seek=0 sfilter=
   shout=0 sshout=0 kib=1 tell=1 ctell=1 pin=0 gin=0 quietplay=0 busy=0
   style=12 width=240 height=24 wrap=0 prompt=1 highlight=0 bell=0
   oldmatch=0 examine=0 unobserve=1 autoflag=1
   who="" players="ab!" lang="English"
   messmail=0 automail=0 mailformat=0 addresspublic=0 subscribe=0
   formula = "!bullet & !freeweek & !wild & autocolor & ((!computer &
((!standard & rating >= 2300) | (standard & rating >= 2000)) & (standard |
bullet | (blitz & etime <= 8))) |
(computer&rating>=myrating-300&((bullet&etime>=2)|(blitz&time >=5&inc>=3)|(etime
>= 30 & standard))))"
   Channels: 64 211
   interface="WinBoard 4.0.2 + c:\diep\diepm"





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