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Subject: Re: Grandmaster AKopian played Crafty on Icc

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:01:59 08/26/99

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On August 26, 1999 at 12:55:01, odell hall wrote:

>On August 26, 1999 at 10:36:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 1999 at 08:41:37, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>On August 26, 1999 at 07:32:06, Claudio A. Amorim wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 26, 1999 at 02:21:39, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>  If anyone is interested in how crafty would do against Grandmaster Atopkian do
>>>>>a Search Crafty Vagr on icc.  After these Games were played I asked Akopian What
>>>>>happened surprised that he lost. He said he was experimenting with some opening.
>>>>>However he admitted that he could not beat crafty and claimed this fact as the
>>>>>reason he played it so few games. Ofcourse these were all blitz games. Akopian
>>>>>said that playing the computers at 40/2 would not be interesting for him because
>>>>>they would be no challenge.
>>>>
>>>>I think Akopian is plain wrong on this matter. Playing the best programs at 40/2
>>>>is already a challenge even to the very best human players in the world, and
>>>>Akopian is hardly in that league (Kasparov, Anand, Kramminik, etc., etc.). FIDE
>>>>Championship, these days, is a display of physical will and blitz wizardy. It
>>>>has little to do with top level chess.
>>>>I'd love to see a tournament involving the greatest human and the better
>>>>computers, round robin, $500.000 to 1st place. Matters should be more clear,
>>>>them.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Cláudio.
>>>
>>>
>>>  While I do believe programs are low GM Strength I don't think any program out
>>>there could defeat a 2600 Grandmaster like akopian at 40/2 in a match. I don't
>>>think one has to be garry kasparov , or annand to beat the best micros at long
>>>time controls.
>>
>>
>>You had better be careful... you are beginning to sound a lot like me.
>>
>>:)
>
>  No Bob I have never maintained that Computers are 2600 strength. I do believe
>they are between 2500-2540, ofcourse this is a long way from where you stand, I
>believe you said they are around the low 2400's. In view of all the recent 40/2
>games I doubt you still have such a low opionion of programs.


I have been fairly consistent saying 2450 is what I would peg as the upper bound
of today's programs...

lets see, estimated TPR so far would be roughly 2200+2600+2600 (one loss,
rating-400, two draws, generously giving the opponents 2600 ratings).  That
turns out to be 7400/3 which is 2466.  Right in line with my speculation,
wouldn't you say?



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