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Subject: Re: Snobbery on ICC servers I cannot get a Game !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:20:36 08/26/99

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On August 26, 1999 at 17:24:37, Mark Young wrote:

>On August 26, 1999 at 14:36:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 1999 at 13:00:54, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>On August 26, 1999 at 10:42:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 26, 1999 at 01:57:24, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 26, 1999 at 00:51:22, Joakim Nilsson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree with you.Every (C) has some form of crazy formula that makes it
>>>>>>impossible to play if your manually operated :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think many of the crafty clones are afraid of manually operated computers,
>>>>>because they know that most likely they will get fritz5, or chessmaster 6000 or
>>>>>one of the other strong commerical program, which ofcourse will damage their
>>>>>"superinflated ratings" (in the words of Data on icc)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Then I wonder why "crafty" will play 60 60 games vs such programs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I was not speaking about Crafty, but "some" of the Crafty clones, Crafty is
>>>pretty much protected because it runs on a Monster of a machine, not to many
>>>people have such hardware, but I tell you what , Reduce crafty down to a pent
>>>400 and I will beat it all day long.
>>
>>
>>There are plenty of PII/400's on ICC.  And I don't doubt that you can beat it
>>some... but if you mean you can beat it all day without losing, I hope you don't
>>wager any money on such an outcome...
>
>
>As always in computer chess, what was true yesterday is not always true today. I
>find the latest versions of crafty very strong playing the top commercial
>program even on equal hardware. At fast time controls I am now finding Crafty as
>good or better then some of the top commercail programs. I do notice a fall off
>for crafty as time controls get longer when playing the top programs. Only
>guessing but this may be due to the fact that you test more and tune more for
>play at fast time controls??!


Actually no...  I have been paying a lot more attention to long games the last
year, and feel that crafty's blitz play has dropped off a bit as a result.  But
Ed's "2010" matches seem to suggest the opposite of what you are seeing, ie that
as the time controls get _very_ long, Crafty is doing exceptionally well...

However, I still have more than enough bugs left to break anything, so who
knows, overall.   :)  But I am not paying a lot of attention to blitz, unless
I happen to notice a 'trend' of sorts...




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