Author: Mark Young
Date: 18:17:40 08/26/99
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On August 26, 1999 at 20:20:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 26, 1999 at 17:24:37, Mark Young wrote: > >>On August 26, 1999 at 14:36:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On August 26, 1999 at 13:00:54, odell hall wrote: >>> >>>>On August 26, 1999 at 10:42:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 26, 1999 at 01:57:24, odell hall wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 26, 1999 at 00:51:22, Joakim Nilsson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I agree with you.Every (C) has some form of crazy formula that makes it >>>>>>>impossible to play if your manually operated :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think many of the crafty clones are afraid of manually operated computers, >>>>>>because they know that most likely they will get fritz5, or chessmaster 6000 or >>>>>>one of the other strong commerical program, which ofcourse will damage their >>>>>>"superinflated ratings" (in the words of Data on icc) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Then I wonder why "crafty" will play 60 60 games vs such programs? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I was not speaking about Crafty, but "some" of the Crafty clones, Crafty is >>>>pretty much protected because it runs on a Monster of a machine, not to many >>>>people have such hardware, but I tell you what , Reduce crafty down to a pent >>>>400 and I will beat it all day long. >>> >>> >>>There are plenty of PII/400's on ICC. And I don't doubt that you can beat it >>>some... but if you mean you can beat it all day without losing, I hope you don't >>>wager any money on such an outcome... >> >> >>As always in computer chess, what was true yesterday is not always true today. I >>find the latest versions of crafty very strong playing the top commercial >>program even on equal hardware. At fast time controls I am now finding Crafty as >>good or better then some of the top commercail programs. I do notice a fall off >>for crafty as time controls get longer when playing the top programs. Only >>guessing but this may be due to the fact that you test more and tune more for >>play at fast time controls??! > > >Actually no... I have been paying a lot more attention to long games the last >year, and feel that crafty's blitz play has dropped off a bit as a result. But >Ed's "2010" matches seem to suggest the opposite of what you are seeing, ie that >as the time controls get _very_ long, Crafty is doing exceptionally well... > >However, I still have more than enough bugs left to break anything, so who >knows, overall. :) But I am not paying a lot of attention to blitz, unless >I happen to notice a 'trend' of sorts... Ed's 2010 matches are in a whole other class of time controls:). I don't test anything over 6 min a move. I don't want to wait to the year 2010 for the data!
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