Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:13:27 08/28/99
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On August 28, 1999 at 11:21:22, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >Hello, > >the result from the WT-5 tournament from Kai Skibbe, Christian Koch and me ! > >40 moves in 40 minutes, >AMD K6-2 333 MHz, Pentium III 504 MHz and AMD K6-3 450 MHz, >~ 32 MB for Hash-Tables, >Ponder = Off > >Crafty, Voyager, Comet, Patzer, Bringer using 4-pieces Nalimov Table-Base >Gromit and AnMon using 4-pieces Edwards Table-Bases ! > >IMPORTANT NOTE >Zarkov, Nimzo, Voyager, LGoliath, Patzer, Francesca und LambChop >are versions of programs in development and have been offered by >authors to Kai, Chritian and Frank only for the explicit purpose >of organizing this tournament. THEY ARE NOT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ! > >01. Nimzo 2000a 102,0/144 70,83% 2572 ELO >02. Zarkov 4.5h 95,5/144 66,32% 2538 ELO >03. Crafty 16.11-16.15 92,0/144 63,89% 2521 ELO >04. Voyager 5.08-6.01 89,5/144 62,15% 2510 ELO >05. LGoliath 2000 75,5/144 52,43% 2445 ELO >06. Comet B.04-B.05 75,0/144 52,08% 2444 ELO >07. AnMon 4.26-4.27 70,0/144 48,61% 2421 ELO >08. Patzer 3.0 64,0/144 44,44% 2394 ELO >09. Phalanx 21 60,0/144 41,67% 2375 ELO >10. Francesca 0.68d-0.70 58,5/144 40,63% 2369 ELO >11. Gromit 2.20 58,0/144 40,28% 2367 ELO >12. LambChop 8.2 51,0/144 35,42% 2333 ELO >13. Bringer 1.4-1.5 45,0/144 31,25% 2303 ELO > >You can download the 936 games under ... >http://members.xoom.com/VolkerPi/ > >Nimzo 2000a play very strong and this version is more than 100 ELO better than >Nimzo 2000 ! Voyager win the matches against Nimzo 2000a, Zarkov 4.5h and Crafty >16.15 with 6,5 : 5,5 lose against Gromit with 5,0 : 7,0 ! > >LambChop 8.2 play more than 100 ELO better than LambChop 7.1, this is very >great, LambChop play an interesting chess, I like this program (and AnMon :-) >and the others) > >For the new chess program Bringer ist this result sensational ! LGoliath 2000 >play ca. 75-100 ELO better than LGoliath Gold 2.05 ! > >From Francesca we become in the last round an update. This new Francesca version >play stronger. OK, when we play the next tournament, but not in the next 3-4 >months I think ! > >The Crafty versions play an fantastic chess and I can not understand that Dr. >Robert Hyatt say that the time managment from Crafty is bad when Crafty play on >one machine. I can not see that. Crafty play under Winboard (without ponder) >matches with a good time control and blitz not the last moves before the time >control ending !!! that is because you don't know the program. I disable a good bit of the time management code when pondering is disabled. But it _definitely_ hurts it as it now doesn't assume it will save any time, which is not the way to play chess... IE as a human I use more time when the game is complex, near the beginning after I am out of my 'book'. Ponder=off disables this, and I consider this bad, whether it plays well for you or not. It is simply not the way to play matches... Because that is not the way the program is developed, nor is it the way it is tested. And no it doesn't have to blitz the last few moves, because I modified this several versions ago. But just because it doesn't get low on time, doesn't imply that it is using its time _correctly_. It definitely isn't... > >In 620 games with Crafty (see the ELO-Ranglist from Kai Skibbe, Christian Koch >and me under ... http://members.xoom.com/VolkerPi/ I see (when i looked the >games, not all games) not problems with the time-managmant from Crafty on one >PC. > >In 4550 games under Winboard we have 30 games with time problems, but the most >of this 30 games are problems from the engines, not problems with time controls. > >We have all log files from Crafty (WT-5) and I looked this and see not problems >with the time control, sorry Bob (great results from Crafty) ! > >OK, thanks for the programmer which give your programs for this tournament and >sorry for my bad english. > >Kind regards >Frank
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