Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 22:12:53 08/28/99
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On August 28, 1999 at 16:13:27, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 28, 1999 at 11:21:22, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>the result from the WT-5 tournament from Kai Skibbe, Christian Koch and me ! >> >>40 moves in 40 minutes, >>AMD K6-2 333 MHz, Pentium III 504 MHz and AMD K6-3 450 MHz, >>~ 32 MB for Hash-Tables, >>Ponder = Off >> >>Crafty, Voyager, Comet, Patzer, Bringer using 4-pieces Nalimov Table-Base >>Gromit and AnMon using 4-pieces Edwards Table-Bases ! >> >>IMPORTANT NOTE >>Zarkov, Nimzo, Voyager, LGoliath, Patzer, Francesca und LambChop >>are versions of programs in development and have been offered by >>authors to Kai, Chritian and Frank only for the explicit purpose >>of organizing this tournament. THEY ARE NOT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ! >> >>01. Nimzo 2000a 102,0/144 70,83% 2572 ELO >>02. Zarkov 4.5h 95,5/144 66,32% 2538 ELO >>03. Crafty 16.11-16.15 92,0/144 63,89% 2521 ELO >>04. Voyager 5.08-6.01 89,5/144 62,15% 2510 ELO >>05. LGoliath 2000 75,5/144 52,43% 2445 ELO >>06. Comet B.04-B.05 75,0/144 52,08% 2444 ELO >>07. AnMon 4.26-4.27 70,0/144 48,61% 2421 ELO >>08. Patzer 3.0 64,0/144 44,44% 2394 ELO >>09. Phalanx 21 60,0/144 41,67% 2375 ELO >>10. Francesca 0.68d-0.70 58,5/144 40,63% 2369 ELO >>11. Gromit 2.20 58,0/144 40,28% 2367 ELO >>12. LambChop 8.2 51,0/144 35,42% 2333 ELO >>13. Bringer 1.4-1.5 45,0/144 31,25% 2303 ELO >> >>You can download the 936 games under ... >>http://members.xoom.com/VolkerPi/ >> >>Nimzo 2000a play very strong and this version is more than 100 ELO better than >>Nimzo 2000 ! Voyager win the matches against Nimzo 2000a, Zarkov 4.5h and Crafty >>16.15 with 6,5 : 5,5 lose against Gromit with 5,0 : 7,0 ! >> >>LambChop 8.2 play more than 100 ELO better than LambChop 7.1, this is very >>great, LambChop play an interesting chess, I like this program (and AnMon :-) >>and the others) >> >>For the new chess program Bringer ist this result sensational ! LGoliath 2000 >>play ca. 75-100 ELO better than LGoliath Gold 2.05 ! >> >>From Francesca we become in the last round an update. This new Francesca version >>play stronger. OK, when we play the next tournament, but not in the next 3-4 >>months I think ! >> >>The Crafty versions play an fantastic chess and I can not understand that Dr. >>Robert Hyatt say that the time managment from Crafty is bad when Crafty play on >>one machine. I can not see that. Crafty play under Winboard (without ponder) >>matches with a good time control and blitz not the last moves before the time >>control ending !!! > > >that is because you don't know the program. I disable a good bit of the >time management code when pondering is disabled. But it _definitely_ hurts >it as it now doesn't assume it will save any time, which is not the way to >play chess... IE as a human I use more time when the game is complex, near >the beginning after I am out of my 'book'. Ponder=off disables this, and I >consider this bad, whether it plays well for you or not. > >It is simply not the way to play matches... Because that is not the way the >program is developed, nor is it the way it is tested. And no it doesn't have to >blitz the last few moves, because I modified this several versions ago. But >just because it doesn't get low on time, doesn't imply that it is using its >time _correctly_. It definitely isn't... We (the programmers) can argue what we want Bob but this is a lost case on before hand because the formula of playing 2 programs on one machine is too good to be true. People are not going to give this up. Same story as with book-learning, it hides the real strength of a chess engine. Still people take the numbers for real. Another lost case :-) Ed
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