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Subject: Re: Results from the WT-5 tournament

Author: brain

Date: 22:39:53 08/28/99

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So Bob,
Voyager and Bionic are crafties. Can I know what else for my record? Thanks.

On August 28, 1999 at 16:08:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 28, 1999 at 11:21:22, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>the result from the WT-5 tournament from Kai Skibbe, Christian Koch and me !
>>
>>40 moves in 40 minutes,
>>AMD K6-2 333 MHz, Pentium III 504 MHz and AMD K6-3 450 MHz,
>>~ 32 MB for Hash-Tables,
>>Ponder = Off
>>
>>Crafty, Voyager, Comet, Patzer, Bringer using 4-pieces Nalimov Table-Base
>>Gromit and AnMon using 4-pieces Edwards Table-Bases !
>
>You do know that 'voyager' is a dead copy of crafty, right?  With just the
>key character constants converted to German.  This was revealed several months
>ago and there was _zero_ doubt as I went thru the executable carefully and
>posted a lot of what I found, just to make it clear...
>
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>>
>>IMPORTANT NOTE
>>Zarkov, Nimzo, Voyager, LGoliath, Patzer, Francesca und LambChop
>>are versions of programs in development and have been offered by
>>authors to Kai, Chritian and Frank only for the explicit purpose
>>of organizing this tournament. THEY ARE NOT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE !
>>
>>01. Nimzo 2000a               102,0/144   70,83%   2572 ELO
>>02. Zarkov 4.5h                95,5/144   66,32%   2538 ELO
>>03. Crafty 16.11-16.15         92,0/144   63,89%   2521 ELO
>>04. Voyager 5.08-6.01          89,5/144   62,15%   2510 ELO
>>05. LGoliath 2000              75,5/144   52,43%   2445 ELO
>>06. Comet B.04-B.05            75,0/144   52,08%   2444 ELO
>>07. AnMon 4.26-4.27            70,0/144   48,61%   2421 ELO
>>08. Patzer 3.0                 64,0/144   44,44%   2394 ELO
>>09. Phalanx 21                 60,0/144   41,67%   2375 ELO
>>10. Francesca 0.68d-0.70       58,5/144   40,63%   2369 ELO
>>11. Gromit 2.20                58,0/144   40,28%   2367 ELO
>>12. LambChop 8.2               51,0/144   35,42%   2333 ELO
>>13. Bringer 1.4-1.5            45,0/144   31,25%   2303 ELO
>>
>>You can download the 936 games under ...
>>http://members.xoom.com/VolkerPi/
>>
>>Nimzo 2000a play very strong and this version is more than 100 ELO better than
>>Nimzo 2000 ! Voyager win the matches against Nimzo 2000a, Zarkov 4.5h and Crafty
>>16.15 with 6,5 : 5,5 lose against Gromit with 5,0 : 7,0 !
>>
>>LambChop 8.2 play more than 100 ELO better than LambChop 7.1, this is very
>>great, LambChop play an interesting chess, I like this program (and AnMon :-)
>>and the others)
>>
>>For the new chess program Bringer ist this result sensational ! LGoliath 2000
>>play ca. 75-100 ELO better than LGoliath Gold 2.05 !
>>
>>From Francesca we become in the last round an update. This new Francesca version
>>play stronger. OK, when we play the next tournament, but not in the next 3-4
>>months I think !
>>
>>The Crafty versions play an fantastic chess and I can not understand that Dr.
>>Robert Hyatt say that the time managment from Crafty is bad when Crafty play on
>>one machine. I can not see that. Crafty play under Winboard (without ponder)
>>matches with a good time control and blitz not the last moves before the time
>>control ending !!!
>>
>>In 620 games with Crafty (see the ELO-Ranglist from Kai Skibbe, Christian Koch
>>and me under ... http://members.xoom.com/VolkerPi/ I see (when i looked the
>>games, not all games) not problems with the time-managmant from Crafty on one
>>PC.
>>
>>In 4550 games under Winboard we have 30 games with time problems, but the most
>>of this 30 games are problems from the engines, not problems with time controls.
>>
>>We have all log files from Crafty (WT-5) and I looked this and see not problems
>>with the time control, sorry Bob (great results from Crafty) !
>>
>>OK, thanks for the programmer which give your programs for this tournament and
>>sorry for my bad english.
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Frank



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