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Subject: Re: LCT-II Fin8

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 18:55:49 08/29/99

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On August 29, 1999 at 21:15:56, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>
>I wonder why this position is in a testset for computers,
>as when i analyzed the win here some years ago
> i needed some 40 moves before
>any evaluation of a computer could see it as a win.

It would be great if you happened to save your analysis. Did you?
A few of us have been trying to work this difficult endgame out
assisted by computer programs (in my case at least).
>
>that's 80 ply, as white king has to move a lot from one side
>to another and such

Just a guess but maybe it was testing whether programs had some kind
of code for toatally blocked positions. As humans we know that without
the pawn break, c5 the score is 0.00. Most programs most likely see
the position before the break as approxiamately +1.XX. Would programs
therefore chose a move like c5? Maybe in the future. Even now some
cunning programmer might have code that detects such blocked
positions as a draw?



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