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Subject: Re: Interesting Computer Computer event: What if?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:15:18 08/30/99

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On August 30, 1999 at 10:22:27, odell hall wrote:

>On August 30, 1999 at 09:38:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 1999 at 00:25:48, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>Hi CCC
>>>
>>>  I was wondering if it would be interesting, or challenging to pit a average
>>>international master armed with  fritz5.32 or Rebel , against garry kasparov at
>>>40/2. Would the international master have a chance? Garry could not overwelm his
>>>opponent with wild tactics, which accounts for many of his victories. Ofcourse
>>>garry would have no access to a computer at all. Who do you think would win?
>>
>>
>>Kasparov.  I don't think the programs are able to help humans very much in
>>a 40/2 game.. the interface is too clumsy and ends up taking the IM's attention
>>away from the game as he tries to check candidate moves for tactical problems.
>>
>>It would be, in my opinion, almost like letting the computer play against
>>Kasparov with the IM overriding a move here and there.  And I don't think
>>the computer would stand a chance vs him...
>>
>>A similar experiment was tried many years ago between david slate + chess 4.x
>>against Levy...  and Slate had the same basic complaint... that the interface
>>is too clumsy/slow and is therefore too distracting to help a lot....
>>
>>just an opinion...
>
>
>  I read somewhere, where kaspy said that a strong player with the aid of a
>computer would be a very formidable foe, So i would think that a international
>master armed with one of the top computer programs, along with the positional
>knowledge which computers lack, would give kaspy a interesting challenge. I
>think alot of titled players nowadays are very expierenced using programs, and
>perhaps they would not be as distracted as you suggest.

The problem is that the 'interface' isn't very good.  you can set up a
position and say "give me the best move here".  but moving around while
searching is not clean and easy...

I think Kasparov would have little problem unless he played the type of player
that was really strong positionally, but was also prone to making simple
tactical mistakes.  The computer could cull the tactical mistakes most of the
time.

But you ought to try this, while the 'clock is ticking' to let the computer
help you out.  In the advanced chess match, they both gave up on the computer
as time started to grow short, because it was too hard to interact with...



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