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Subject: two simple endings, too hard for computers?

Author: Gerrit Reubold

Date: 07:02:19 08/31/99


Hi all,

Here are two endgame positions which are easy draws (for humans), however, my
program (Bringer) lost both. Does your programs play better moves? how long do
they take to see the draw?

Position from Bringer 1.4 - Crafty 16.11, after 155. ... Bb5

8/8/2k5/1bp5/4p2p/2K1P2P/4B1P1/8 w - - 0 1

How long does your program take to avoid the losing 156. Bc4?? Instead,
sacrificing the g2 pawn with Bg4 and keeping the king on c3 should be an easy
draw. (Bringer would need 6 min on a PII 300 to avoid Bc4 :-( )


Position from Crafty 16.11 - Bringer 1.4

8/6pk/2B1N2p/5p2/5P2/3K2n1/8/8 b - - 0 1

43. ... g5 would be an easy draw, does any program see this move (BTW, Bringer
played Kg6 and h5 and lost)


The second position leads to the question: how should we evaluate positions like
this:
8/2k5/2n5/8/8/2BN4/2K5/8 w - - 0 1
Don't tell me "5 pieces EGTBs", because there may be another black pawn, which
wouldn't change a thing.


Greetings,
Gerrit



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