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Subject: Re: How does the differences in computer speed, translate in terms of Elo?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:22:19 09/01/99

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On September 01, 1999 at 10:16:48, odell hall wrote:

>On September 01, 1999 at 09:37:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 01, 1999 at 09:25:12, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>On September 01, 1999 at 07:35:47, Shep wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 01, 1999 at 06:11:23, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is there a huge difference in terms of elo points between rebel 10 on the
>>>>>K6-600 amd and what my system K6-II350 ? The rebel page suggest that the
>>>>>diffence is very minor, 2554 for k6-amd and 2576 for k6600?  The reason I am
>>>>>asking is because i am getting a little obssesed with the need to have the
>>>>>strongest program, even though I could not beat rebel on my 486!!! I am
>>>>>wondering if it would really be worth it to upgrade? What's a few rating points?
>>>>>I probally would not notice the difference anyway.  I notice also that my rebel
>>>>>found all the moves of schroeders Amdk6 600  in the last grandmaster challenge.
>>>>
>>>>One of the problems of the Rebel benchmark is that current systems are already
>>>>very close to the maximum 2600. Thus the results for the fastest machines are
>>>>probably a little too low compared to the slower ones.
>>>>22 ELO seems a little low for doubling the speed.
>>>>40-60 seems more reasonable even at these high levels. (See also the Louguet
>>>>test suite which gives 40-65 points difference typically).
>>>>
>>>>BTW, if you're thinking about upgrading to the fastest, the Kryotech K7-800 is
>>>>ready for shipping (www.kryotech.com). :-)
>>>>
>>>>---
>>>>Shep
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for the info, I just might order one of those things. I suspect I could
>>>probally get a blitz rating on ICC using CM6555 of over 3500!!! and a standard
>>>rating of well over 2800!
>>
>>
>>3500 ain't going to happen.  There  is _no_ way you can beat all computers there
>>at a rate of roughly 24 wins for every loss.  2800 standard is _already_ done.
>
>
>  I could do it easily if I limited the program to play only humans, but
>ofcourse i don't believe in snobbery


I think it would be difficult, because there are not many 3000+ humans on the
server...  and there are a few that are going to win games...  Yasser is one
player you will simply not win even 90% against.  And if he is rated at
2900, you are not going to get to 3500 if you play him. There are lots of
others.  3500 means you beat 3300 players 3 of every 4 games.  You'll find that
beating yasser 3 of every 4 games is _very_ difficult.  As it would be to beat
Shirov... or any of several others...



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