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Subject: Re: CSTal-2 vs Crafty 16.15 (CST-2 wins!)

Author: Shep

Date: 23:58:56 09/05/99

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On September 05, 1999 at 20:05:31, James T. Walker wrote:

>On September 05, 1999 at 15:23:15, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On September 05, 1999 at 15:13:28, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On September 05, 1999 at 11:17:54, David Beauregard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 05, 1999 at 09:03:38, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This is game #4.  CSTal-2 is palying on a K6-3-450/256 Meg & Crafty is on a
>>>>>Pentuim II-333/128 Meg.  This type game is the reason some people including
>>>>>myself like CST-2.  Crafty's score was 0.00 expecting Re2 when the bishop hit
>>>>>g3.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "40/2"]
>>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>>[Date "1999.09.05"]
>>>>>[Round "4"]
>>>>>[White "Crafty 16.15"]
>>>>>[Black "Chess Tal II"]
>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. c3
>>>>>d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. d4 Bd6 13. Re1 Qh4 14. g3 Qh3 15.
>>>>>Qd3 Bf5 16. Qf1 Rae8 17. Bd2 Rxe1 18. Bxe1 Qh5 19. Nd2 Re8 20. a4 Bh3 21. Qd3
>>>>>Bb8 22. Ne4 Bg4 23. Bd2 Be2 24. Qb1 f6 25. Nc5 Bf3 26. axb5 Bxg3 27. fxg3 Re2
>>>>>28. h4 Rg2+ 29. Kf1 Rxg3 30. Bxd5+ Bxd5 31. Qd3 Rxd3 32. Nxd3 Qf3+ 33. Ke1 Bc4
>>>>>34. Rxa6 Bxd3 35. Ra8+ Kf7 36. Ra7+ Ke6 37. Re7+ Kxe7 38. bxc6 Qe2+ 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Walker
>>>>
>>>>Jim..i like tal too and I am the operator of talmoves on ICC.  But to be fair
>>>>you should be running the same hardware for both programs.  A 450 k3 is a lot
>>>>faster than a PII 333.
>>>
>>>Crafty is leading 2.5:1.5 with the slower hardware so it does not need equal
>>>hardware.
>>>
>>>I think that it is fair to give the weaker player the better hardware and the
>>>results show that tal is the weaker player.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>If tal is going to lead the match then it is possible to change the machines.
>>
>>I also read that tal is earning a lot from the pentiumIII and I am interesting
>>to know if tal earn more or less speed then crafty if both programs play on
>>pIII500 instead of A450K3,pII 333.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hello Uri,
>I would like to know this too.  I'm not going to buy another computer to find
>out though.  At least not soon.  I know only that CSTal-2 gains much more from
>the K6-3 than Crafty does, so putting Crafty on the K6-3 will not help much but
>putting CSTal-2 on the PII will hurt it a lot.
>Jim Walker

On my PIII-550's, Crafty's speedup compared to P6-200 is about 3x (slightly
less) and CSTal's speedup is nearly the same (about 2.7x).
So they gain about the same on the PIII.
Maybe PIII vs. K6-3 is something different (I only have a K6-2 for comparison).

---
Shep




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