Author: James T. Walker
Date: 05:45:04 09/06/99
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On September 06, 1999 at 02:58:56, Shep wrote: >On September 05, 1999 at 20:05:31, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On September 05, 1999 at 15:23:15, blass uri wrote: >> >>>On September 05, 1999 at 15:13:28, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>On September 05, 1999 at 11:17:54, David Beauregard wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 05, 1999 at 09:03:38, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>This is game #4. CSTal-2 is palying on a K6-3-450/256 Meg & Crafty is on a >>>>>>Pentuim II-333/128 Meg. This type game is the reason some people including >>>>>>myself like CST-2. Crafty's score was 0.00 expecting Re2 when the bishop hit >>>>>>g3. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>[Event "40/2"] >>>>>>[Site "?"] >>>>>>[Date "1999.09.05"] >>>>>>[Round "4"] >>>>>>[White "Crafty 16.15"] >>>>>>[Black "Chess Tal II"] >>>>>>[Result "0-1"] >>>>>> >>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. c3 >>>>>>d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. d4 Bd6 13. Re1 Qh4 14. g3 Qh3 15. >>>>>>Qd3 Bf5 16. Qf1 Rae8 17. Bd2 Rxe1 18. Bxe1 Qh5 19. Nd2 Re8 20. a4 Bh3 21. Qd3 >>>>>>Bb8 22. Ne4 Bg4 23. Bd2 Be2 24. Qb1 f6 25. Nc5 Bf3 26. axb5 Bxg3 27. fxg3 Re2 >>>>>>28. h4 Rg2+ 29. Kf1 Rxg3 30. Bxd5+ Bxd5 31. Qd3 Rxd3 32. Nxd3 Qf3+ 33. Ke1 Bc4 >>>>>>34. Rxa6 Bxd3 35. Ra8+ Kf7 36. Ra7+ Ke6 37. Re7+ Kxe7 38. bxc6 Qe2+ 0-1 >>>>>> >>>>>>Jim Walker >>>>> >>>>>Jim..i like tal too and I am the operator of talmoves on ICC. But to be fair >>>>>you should be running the same hardware for both programs. A 450 k3 is a lot >>>>>faster than a PII 333. >>>> >>>>Crafty is leading 2.5:1.5 with the slower hardware so it does not need equal >>>>hardware. >>>> >>>>I think that it is fair to give the weaker player the better hardware and the >>>>results show that tal is the weaker player. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>If tal is going to lead the match then it is possible to change the machines. >>> >>>I also read that tal is earning a lot from the pentiumIII and I am interesting >>>to know if tal earn more or less speed then crafty if both programs play on >>>pIII500 instead of A450K3,pII 333. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Hello Uri, >>I would like to know this too. I'm not going to buy another computer to find >>out though. At least not soon. I know only that CSTal-2 gains much more from >>the K6-3 than Crafty does, so putting Crafty on the K6-3 will not help much but >>putting CSTal-2 on the PII will hurt it a lot. >>Jim Walker > >On my PIII-550's, Crafty's speedup compared to P6-200 is about 3x (slightly >less) and CSTal's speedup is nearly the same (about 2.7x). >So they gain about the same on the PIII. >Maybe PIII vs. K6-3 is something different (I only have a K6-2 for comparison). > >--- >Shep Hello Shep, Yes, the K6-3 is different. My K6-3 is really my K6-2 which I installed a new MB/CPU to make it a K6-3. The K6-2 was not much help for CSTal-2. I think the larger CPU cache makes the difference. The K6-3 has 64K L1 & 256K L2 on board and my mother board has 1 Meg of L3 cache for a total of 1320K. Hiarcs 7.32 also likes the K6-3. Jim Walker
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