Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 11:45:47 09/06/99
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On September 06, 1999 at 14:41:58, Will Singleton wrote: >On September 06, 1999 at 02:10:49, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On September 05, 1999 at 17:35:31, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >> >>>On September 05, 1999 at 13:45:45, Andrew Williams wrote: >>> >>>>On September 05, 1999 at 13:14:43, Peter Hegger wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hello >>>>>I noticed as I've watched the last few GM challenges with Rebel at ICC that >>>>>their are lots of people "kibitzing" analysis, comments etc... instead of >>>>>"whispering" while the game is in progress. They are always quickly told >>>>>"whisper don't kibitz" by the other spectators. >>>>>I can see where this would be a problem if the GM had "setkib 1" and could see >>>>>lots of juicy analysis from Fritz, Crafty and the gang. But surely if there is >>>>>an arbiter present at the site of the GM, he's not going to let the GM set his >>>>>kibitz to see all this. So is there really a problem here? >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Peter >>>> >>>>You can do "vars gmwhoever" to see what the GM's kib variable is set to. >>>>GM Hoffman had kib set to 1, which means he could see everything being >>>>kibitzed. Therefore it makes sense to whisper instead of kibitz. In an ideal >>>>world, someone would make sure that kib=0 for the GM. But since this wasn't >>>>the case, and since it is just as easy to whisper as it is to kibitz, and >>>>since it's a bit rude to kibitz on a human's game and since we're all desparate >>>>to see this series of games continue, I think it's not unreasonable to ask >>>>spectators to use whisper. >>>> >>>>Best regards >>>> >>>>Andrew >>> >>>Yes, I can verify that GM hoffman had kib set to 1 and told one of the >>>spectators to whisper instead of kibitz, but was ignored and he/she continued to >>>kibitz! What is bizarre is many of the spectators go through a lot of trouble to >>>determine whether they can kibitz instead of whisper even though there is no >>>advantage to kibitz over whispering in that situation. Dumb! If not sure, they >>>should just whisper, but they act like the dumb ones are the people who whisper >>>when they don't need to. They don't seem to realize that the purpose of kibitz >>>over whisper is to be heard by the players TOO. Whisper allows them to be heard >>>by everyone but the players which is exactly what they want. >> >>I will ask Andy from ICC to do something to the problem next time. Andy >>wasn't present during the Rebel-Hoffman game. If memory serves me well >>there was hardly any kibitz during the previous games. >> >>Ed Schroder > >Ed, > >Ask him to do something about the whispering, too. :) I think the games are >much less enjoyable to watch when the kids start jabbering. > >I'd recommend restricting whisper privileges to those who agree beforehand that >any comment will pertain strictly to the game. > >Will You can't do anything about the whispering except apply peer pressure, but you shouldn't have to tolerate the kibitzing. You should be able to get an admin to tell the offending parties to shut up, and they should either shut up at that point or be nuked (disconnected from the server). bruce
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