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Subject: Re: A Question for Robert Hyatt

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:14:44 09/11/99

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On September 11, 1999 at 20:19:52, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On September 11, 1999 at 20:05:14, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On September 11, 1999 at 19:50:11, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>On September 11, 1999 at 16:07:47, odell hall wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 15:27:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 14:05:12, Leon Stancliff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Robert,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have been speculating for a long time on what would take place in a match
>>>>>>between the top ten computer programs running on easily available machines and
>>>>>>the top ten chess players in the USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have been playing my Hiarcs 7 program on a Macintosh G3 at 275 Mhz. It plays
>>>>>>almost even with both Data and Singacrafty on ICC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have assembled the following list of computer programs from such sources as
>>>>>>the SSDF list and the Selective Search list. In your opinion, would Data,
>>>>>>Singacrafty or Crafty deserve a position in this list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hiarcs 7.32
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Fritz 5.32
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Chessmaster 6000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Nimzo 99
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Chess Tiger 11.8.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Junior 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Rebel 10
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Shredder 3
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Genius 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   MChess Pro 7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Let's assume that each is running at about 550 Mhz on a single CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   MChess Pro 7
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I wouldn't venture a guess.  If you put crafty on a quad xeon 550, it can beat
>>>>>_any_ of those programs.  On equal hardware I really don't know as I don't play
>>>>>on 'equal' hardware.  :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Oh yes!, i would love to see the results of crafty verses the top programs on
>>>>equal hardware, It would be interesting to see how it would measure up.
>>>
>>>Ok, I think the right "equal hardware" should be 16-CPU Alpha 21264. Or (if it
>>>happenes that some programs will not run on Alpha), a 8-CPU Xeon.
>>>
>>>Eugene
>>
>>Sounds good to me! :-)
>>
>>Do Intel Paragons consist of x86 chips?
>>
>>Dave
>
>I beleive it's not SMP platform.
>
>Eugene


Correct. It is a mesh-connected message passing system.  Each node has 5
processors, and four bi-directional communication channels (100mbytes/sec I
think, but am not certain).  IE PVM/DCE/MPI/CLINDA/CILK/etc would work on it,
but there is _no_ shared memory.



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