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Subject: Re: A Question for Robert Hyatt

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 20:12:57 09/11/99

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I beleive the most powerful "off the shelf" SMP x86 system is 8 CPU Xeon system
that uses Intel Profusion chipset. That chipset was described in Microprocessor
Report ~2 months ago.

Eugene

On September 11, 1999 at 22:14:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 11, 1999 at 20:19:52, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>
>>On September 11, 1999 at 20:05:14, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On September 11, 1999 at 19:50:11, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 16:07:47, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 15:27:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 14:05:12, Leon Stancliff wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Robert,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I have been speculating for a long time on what would take place in a match
>>>>>>>between the top ten computer programs running on easily available machines and
>>>>>>>the top ten chess players in the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I have been playing my Hiarcs 7 program on a Macintosh G3 at 275 Mhz. It plays
>>>>>>>almost even with both Data and Singacrafty on ICC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I have assembled the following list of computer programs from such sources as
>>>>>>>the SSDF list and the Selective Search list. In your opinion, would Data,
>>>>>>>Singacrafty or Crafty deserve a position in this list?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hiarcs 7.32
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Fritz 5.32
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Chessmaster 6000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Nimzo 99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Chess Tiger 11.8.2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Junior 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Rebel 10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Shredder 3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Genius 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   MChess Pro 7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Let's assume that each is running at about 550 Mhz on a single CPU.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   MChess Pro 7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wouldn't venture a guess.  If you put crafty on a quad xeon 550, it can beat
>>>>>>_any_ of those programs.  On equal hardware I really don't know as I don't play
>>>>>>on 'equal' hardware.  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Oh yes!, i would love to see the results of crafty verses the top programs on
>>>>>equal hardware, It would be interesting to see how it would measure up.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, I think the right "equal hardware" should be 16-CPU Alpha 21264. Or (if it
>>>>happenes that some programs will not run on Alpha), a 8-CPU Xeon.
>>>>
>>>>Eugene
>>>
>>>Sounds good to me! :-)
>>>
>>>Do Intel Paragons consist of x86 chips?
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>I beleive it's not SMP platform.
>>
>>Eugene
>
>
>Correct. It is a mesh-connected message passing system.  Each node has 5
>processors, and four bi-directional communication channels (100mbytes/sec I
>think, but am not certain).  IE PVM/DCE/MPI/CLINDA/CILK/etc would work on it,
>but there is _no_ shared memory.



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