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Subject: Re: Crafty on Anything is not that good..... <grin>....

Author: blass uri

Date: 11:36:26 09/12/99

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On September 12, 1999 at 10:43:37, Randy Schmidt wrote:

>I do not believe that Crafty running on any processor(s) would
>be stronger than Hiarcs7.1, or for that matter Junior.  My
>large caveat is that the time control be something like eight
>hours a move (perhaps even 50 hours a move).
>
>My point is that the positional elements of Junior and Hiarcs
>would supercede the speed of crafty on a souped up computer.

I hope that you are right about Junior but I have no clear evidence that you are
right.

I think that crafty is better than Junior in some positional elements.
For example Crafty knows that KBPP vs K is a draw if the bishop is blind and
does not control the promotion square when Junior does not know it.

I also know about other cases when Crafty shows better positional understanding
relative to Junior.

For example Junior had positional problems in the evaluation of the endgame in
WCCC against shredder when Crafty has better positional understanding of this
endgame.

There are of course cases when the opposite is truth but we need games at long
time control to prove if you are right or wrong and the only games we have are
the games of Rebel at 1 hour per move when Crafty had the best results against
Rebel.

I remember that Rebel did a stupid tactical mistake in one of these games
against Crafty16.6 (mistake that other programs can avoid in a few minutes) and
we need more games to know if Crafty is better or worse than other programs at
long time controls.

Uri



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