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Subject: Re: Crafty on Anything is not that good..... <grin>....

Author: blass uri

Date: 22:22:12 09/12/99

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On September 12, 1999 at 20:54:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 12, 1999 at 10:43:37, Randy Schmidt wrote:
>
>>I do not believe that Crafty running on any processor(s) would
>>be stronger than Hiarcs7.1, or for that matter Junior.  My
>>large caveat is that the time control be something like eight
>>hours a move (perhaps even 50 hours a move).
>>
>>My point is that the positional elements of Junior and Hiarcs
>>would supercede the speed of crafty on a souped up computer.
>>On any time control faster than 40/2, I think Crafty would have
>>a decisive advantage.
>>
>
>
>Here's a point to ponder.  If "junior" has a lot more 'positional understanding'
>than crafty, how would you explain the fact that it is _far_ faster than crafty.
>In fact, it is likely the fastest program running that I have seen NPS numbers
>for.

The theory that slow searchers are better positional understanding is not a
right theory because the question is not nps for second but if the evaluation
function is good.

For example I think that Crafty has better positional understanding relative to
tal because tal is too optimistic about the positional advantage.

It is not clear to me if Junior is a better positional player relative to crafty
but you cannot learn about it by the number of nodes per second.

I believe that the latest version of Junior is better in
positional understnding relative to previous versions and it is looking at the
same number of nodes per second.

Uri



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