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Subject: Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 16:41:14 09/13/99

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On September 13, 1999 at 19:08:22, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On September 13, 1999 at 19:06:01, Charles Unruh wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if that is their goal
>>i.e to draw. I say this because by taking said strategy i have been able to draw
>>about 15-20% of my games against comps and i'm just recently an expert.
>>Anti-computer play really pays the bills when doing this.  Most progs seem to
>>want draws anyway, especially Genius.  Now this is a bit contrary to how one
>>should play to get a draw vs humans, but we aren't talking about humans here :).
>
>I would be happy to take you up on this.  Please email me if you want to arrange
>a time, and we can do this on ICC.
>
>Some GM's can do OK at 5 0, but there are a lot who will lose every game of a
>ten-game match, I think.
>
>bruce

I've had similar experiences on ICC. I seem to be able to score more than my
fair share of draws against the computer programs playing there. If I try to win
I get "embarassed". But when I play to draw, the games I've been successful (5 3
blitz unrated) at have followed 1 of 2 patterns:

1) One of the crafty clones has a penchant for unsound gambits (Englund gambit
with f7-f6). I play solidly with a caro pawn structure and exchange down to an
ending, which I draw.
2) I play an exchange sac, which computer programs do not cope with as well as
they should. They don't understand the importance of activating their rook. One
game I almost won, but I screwed up and allowed counterplay and had to force a
draw.

I'm 2411 on ICC. My best score in one day was 2 draws out of 4 games if I
remember correctly. I feel pretty sure these programs are easier to draw than
GMs.

• Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Bruce Moreland 20:24:29 09/13/99
  • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Ricardo Gibert 01:36:53 09/14/99
    • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 06:54:56 09/14/99
      • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Bruce Moreland 08:53:36 09/14/99
      • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Ralf Elvsén 08:41:02 09/14/99
        • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 12:38:10 09/14/99
          • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? KarinsDad 13:05:47 09/14/99
            • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 19:06:21 09/14/99
            • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Ricardo Gibert 15:35:26 09/14/99
        • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Peter Kasinski 10:24:00 09/14/99
    • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Bruce Moreland 01:57:34 09/14/99
      • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Ricardo Gibert 02:15:51 09/14/99
        • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 06:55:43 09/14/99
• Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 16:50:54 09/13/99
  • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Ricardo Gibert 17:01:23 09/13/99
    • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 19:11:25 09/13/99
      • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Ricardo Gibert 01:29:43 09/14/99
        • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 07:00:15 09/14/99
        • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Ricardo Gibert 03:05:26 09/14/99
      • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? James B. Shearer 00:05:35 09/14/99
        • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 07:06:01 09/14/99
          • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? James B. Shearer 21:57:28 09/15/99
            • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 06:56:09 09/16/99
              • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? James B. Shearer 20:14:08 09/16/99
                • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 21:10:57 09/16/99
                  • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Igor Syry 09:43:58 09/17/99
                    • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? James B. Shearer 14:57:08 09/18/99
                    • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 13:38:03 09/17/99
      • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? odell hall 22:45:21 09/13/99
        • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 07:10:07 09/14/99
          • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? odell hall 11:27:19 09/14/99
            • Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if? Robert Hyatt 12:42:46 09/14/99

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