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Subject: Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:50:54 09/13/99

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On September 13, 1999 at 19:41:14, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On September 13, 1999 at 19:08:22, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 1999 at 19:06:01, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if that is their goal
>>>i.e to draw. I say this because by taking said strategy i have been able to draw
>>>about 15-20% of my games against comps and i'm just recently an expert.
>>>Anti-computer play really pays the bills when doing this.  Most progs seem to
>>>want draws anyway, especially Genius.  Now this is a bit contrary to how one
>>>should play to get a draw vs humans, but we aren't talking about humans here :).
>>
>>I would be happy to take you up on this.  Please email me if you want to arrange
>>a time, and we can do this on ICC.
>>
>>Some GM's can do OK at 5 0, but there are a lot who will lose every game of a
>>ten-game match, I think.
>>
>>bruce
>
>I've had similar experiences on ICC. I seem to be able to score more than my
>fair share of draws against the computer programs playing there. If I try to win
>I get "embarassed". But when I play to draw, the games I've been successful (5 3
>blitz unrated) at have followed 1 of 2 patterns:
>
>1) One of the crafty clones has a penchant for unsound gambits (Englund gambit
>with f7-f6). I play solidly with a caro pawn structure and exchange down to an
>ending, which I draw.
>2) I play an exchange sac, which computer programs do not cope with as well as
>they should. They don't understand the importance of activating their rook. One
>game I almost won, but I screwed up and allowed counterplay and had to force a
>draw.
>
>I'm 2411 on ICC. My best score in one day was 2 draws out of 4 games if I
>remember correctly. I feel pretty sure these programs are easier to draw than
>GMs.


I'm with Bruce here.  at 5 0 draws are probably hopeless.  with an increment,
the chances go up...  but if you are expecting your opponent to play a bogus
opening and then draw it, look out.  Not _all_ clones (and certainly not the
"real mccoy") play gambits...  except for those that are reasonably sound, like
the Evans, etc...

I'd be happy to let you try your luck with 'crafty' on ICC or FICS if you want,
as it is always interesting to see if I have problems I don't know of.  But you
probably want to talk to IM Kim Commons or Brian Hartman, first.  Kim
particularly plays for Draws vs Crafty and he is not real successful at doing
so at blitz time controls...



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