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Subject: Re: Kasparov - World after black's 42.-b2

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:02:36 09/13/99

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On September 13, 1999 at 15:26:01, A.L.Mourik wrote:

>On September 13, 1999 at 08:21:24, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 1999 at 07:09:54, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>On September 13, 1999 at 06:00:31, Paulo Soares wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 13, 1999 at 05:14:12, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>FEN: 8/1p2n3/3p3P/6P1/2kp4/8/1p4K1/3R4 w - -
>>>>>
>>>>>This is quite complicated position, but I think black cannot lose! May be
>>>>>white is in bigger danger? I start to follow game only last week
>>>>>and for my very big surprise World is fighting hard. I supposed that Kasparov
>>>>>wins quite easily as has happened previously in this type of games...
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>Do you know this site?
>>>>http://www.gmchess.spb.ru/kasparov-world.html
>>>>
>>>>Paulo
>>>
>>>No thanks! (I come to draw conclusion after 5 minutes with PC)
>>
>> oops - Kasparov still thinks he has 50% chance to win 50% for a draw.
>> It will probably reach Q-ending with supported g5 pawn for white vs
>> black pawns on b7,d6. Very interesting analyzes to be found - out of reach
>> for computers!? Black has to play very exact for the possible draw!
>>
>> Sune
>>>>
>> The King 2.56 thinks Kasparov is winning!, more than 3 pawns!! better
>> evaluation.
>> Personally I agree with this evaluation although Crafty 16.08 thinks it can
>> be drawn according to its evaluations after promoting with tee resting pawns > on g5 for white and b7 and d6 for black.
>>
>> Bram


I ran this on crafty... using _all_ tablebases and the 4cpu machine:

               11    11.62  -1.39   1. Kf3 Kb3 2. Ke2 Ka2 3. Rd2 Ka1 4.
                                    Rxd4 b1=Q 5. Ra4+ Qa2+ 6. Rxa2+ Kxa2
                                    7. Ke3 Ng6
               11->  12.34  -1.39   1. Kf3 Kb3 2. Ke2 Ka2 3. Rd2 Ka1 4.
                                    Rxd4 b1=Q 5. Ra4+ Qa2+ 6. Rxa2+ Kxa2
                                    7. Ke3 Ng6
               12    16.23  -1.55   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. Rf2+ Kb3 4.
                                    Rf1 Ka2 5. Ke4 b1=Q+ 6. Rxb1 Kxb1 <HT>
               12->  17.87  -1.55   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. Rf2+ Kb3 4.
                                    Rf1 Ka2 5. Ke4 b1=Q+ 6. Rxb1 Kxb1 <HT>
               13    27.86  -1.55   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. Rf2+ Kb3 4.
                                    Rf1 Ka2 5. Ke4 b1=Q+ 6. Rxb1 Kxb1 7.
                                    h7 Ng6 8. Kf5 Nh8 9. g6 <HT>
               13->  31.32  -1.55   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. Rf2+ Kb3 4.
                                    Rf1 Ka2 5. Ke4 b1=Q+ 6. Rxb1 Kxb1 7.
                                    h7 Ng6 8. Kf5 Nh8 9. g6 <HT>
               14    56.28     ++   1. Kf3!!
               14     1:41  -0.21   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Kg4 b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kf5 d3 7.
                                    Kxg6 d2 8. Kf6 d1=Q 9. h8=Q
               14->   1:46  -0.21   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Kg4 b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kf5 d3 7.
                                    Kxg6 d2 8. Kf6 d1=Q 9. h8=Q
               15     3:46  -0.21   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Kg4 b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kf5 d3 7.
                                    Kxg6 d2 8. Kf6 d1=Q 9. h8=Q
               15->   4:00  -0.21   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Kg4 b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kf5 d3 7.
                                    Kxg6 d2 8. Kf6 d1=Q 9. h8=Q
               16     7:29  -0.60   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rb1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Rxb2+ Kxb2 5. Ke4 d3 6. Kf5 d2 7. Kxg6
                                    d1=Q 8. h8=Q+ Kb3 9. Qh3+ Kb4 10. Qe3
                                    b5 11. Kf6
               16->   8:35  -0.60   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rb1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Rxb2+ Kxb2 5. Ke4 d3 6. Kf5 d2 7. Kxg6
                                    d1=Q 8. h8=Q+ Kb3 9. Qh3+ Kb4 10. Qe3
                                    b5 11. Kf6
               17    25:45  -0.22   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Kg4 b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kh5 d3 <HT>
               17->  28:10  -0.22   1. Kf3 Kc3 2. Rf1 Kc2 3. h7 Ng6 4.
                                    Kg4 b1=Q 5. Rxb1 Kxb1 6. Kh5 d3 <HT>
?              18    29:00   1/20   1. Kf3
White(1): ?
              time=29:12  cpu=393%  mat=0  n=1256165774  fh=16%  nps=716973
              ext-> checks=113768217 recaps=2102455 pawns=3882384 1rep=3765327
thrt:59733
              predicted=0  nodes=1256165774  evals=179813789
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=47989  successful=32697
              SMP->  split=62470  stop=10229  data=28/64  cpu=114:57  elap=29:12




That's the best I can do at present...  I have _zero_ idea why CM thinks that
this is +3.  One of the two programs is grossly wrong...  I hope it isn't mine.



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