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Subject: Re: compiling crafty

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:49:32 09/14/99

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On September 14, 1999 at 12:22:24, Zachariah Amela wrote:

>>
>>You would be _amazed_ if you took a tour thru the various weapons labs like
>>LLNL, LANL, ORNL, ONR, ARL, etc...  and noticed _all_ the Linux boxes they are
>>now using.
>
>Wow really?  Have you worked w/ any of these weapons development labs??  I
>always found the science most interesting.
>

Time for a history lesson...  :)

Harry Nelson, my partner in Cray Blitz, worked at Lawrence Livermore National
Lab.  Harry was/is considered the premier expert on Cray assembly language/
architecture in the entire world, and has worked as a consultant to Cray for
20+ years.  I have spent many a visit out at Livermore tweaking Cray Blitz for
the next tournament...

"Lachex" was written at the Los Alamos National Laboratory by Dr. Burton
Wendroff.  Burt and I have been friends almost forever, it seems, and he is
still occasionally active on ICC with a handle of 'firefly' for his current
chess program.  I have spent many days visiting at Los Alamos also, visiting
Burt, as Harry could always finagle a visit to LANL himself so that we could
get together.  :)



>I understand SGI Irix systems are used for a lot of the militarys satellite
>imaging.  How does Irix compare w/ Linux?  Do the 'play together' well, or not?

Works fine.  In fact, lots of SGI boxes are running Linux, just like a lot of
sun boxes are, because IRIX is not 'great' by any measure...



>
>>
>>Sun is still around, but they are falling further and further behind every
>>month, for reasons that are unknown to me.  But basically, their ultra-sparc
>>cpus are about the worst processor you can currently buy if you want raw cpu
>>speed.  I can't think of a single machine (current cpu) that the ultra-sparc
>>can beat on a mhz to mhz comparison.  And that isn't the end of the story,
>>because their mhz is only about 2x behind everyone else and getting further
>>behind weekly. 750mhz to 1ghz alphas, PIII/600+'s, and Sun drags up the rear
>>with nothing close.  And Solaris is not exactly enticing any longer, it has
>>more bugs than an abandoned food factory.
>
>Agreed.  The bench marks on the Sparc CPUs are pretty bad.  Solaris was the king
>of the hill until Linux arrived huh?

At one time sun "owned" the workstation market.  But they decided to get away
from commodity microprocessors (they were a Motorola 680x0 user at first) and
designed their own.  The rest is history.



>
>In terms of CAD/CAM what does Linux offer?  What packages exit for truly
>professional design and industrial manufacturing systems?  Are there any systems
>the beat out other design systems for other UNIX and/or Windows flavors?
>
>Thanks.


That is a Linux issue.  There are some commercial products for Linux.  There
are more for Solaris.  There are _many_ more for Windows.  Not being a CAD/CAM
person, I don't know what is out for Linux, but I am sure that there are
options, although I wouldn't venture to guess how they stack up against Solaris
or IRIX software options...







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