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Subject: Re: Moderation: What Did He Say?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:23:17 09/17/99

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On September 17, 1999 at 02:06:35, odell hall wrote:

>On September 17, 1999 at 00:02:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 16, 1999 at 23:42:22, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>On September 16, 1999 at 21:06:24, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 19:29:53, Thom Perry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 18:55:01, Bradley S., Short wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 17:53:52, odell hall wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 13:16:08, Bradley S., Short wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The last time I even used Chessmaster 3000 was on a 486/50. Lately
>>>>>>>>I have been playing around with it on a Celeron 366 and it is much
>>>>>>>>improved.
>>>>>>>>Beat Novag Sapphire 5 to 0 at game in 60 minutes.
>>>>>>>>Draw against CM5500 at 3 min per move.
>>>>>>>>Draw against CM6000 at 3 min per move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It takes time to play these 3 min per move games but so far CM3000 hasnt
>>>>>>>>been beaten. It can see over 200,000 postitions per second. more
>>>>>>>>four times 5500 or 6000.
>>>>>>>>Both 5500 and 6000 are much more sophisticated programs with better
>>>>>>>>algorithms so they would no doubt defeat 3000 in serious matches but
>>>>>>>>still I am quite pleased with the old boy.
>>>>>>>>I used 3000 to learn to play the game and back then it really used to
>>>>>>>>make short work of me. As I got stronger I began to see its weaknesses..
>>>>>>>>Later I got 4000 and went back to getting spanked.
>>>>>>>>But now that the hardware is 10 times faster 3000 made a significant leap
>>>>>>>>in strength. Enough to interest me again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you ask me Chessmaster 3000 is rather weak, I beat it like a step-child
>>>>>>>when I had my cyrix 233
>>>>
>>>>Stop and think for a moment and perhaps you can come up with a very nice analogy
>>>>or metaphor involving someone of a different race.  Imagine for a moment how mad
>>>>a whole bunch of people would get if you used this analogy in this group, and
>>>>your best response to this would perhaps be to go hide under a rock.
>>>>
>>>>Now imagine an analogy involving some light belligerent intent, or reference to
>>>>a meat product, or something like that.  If you use this analogy, perhaps it
>>>>offends someone, and your response would be something like, "excuse me for
>>>>living, buster".
>>>>
>>>>There has been a complaint about the analogy at the end of the quoted post.  I
>>>>think the analogy is somewhere between the two situations described in my
>>>>previous two paragraphs.  I can see the point of the complaint, but I don't want
>>>>to delete the post.  I would ask that people consider carefully the effect their
>>>>words will have on the large and diverse population of people who read CCC, and
>>>>please try to use images that won't result in complaints to the CCC moderator
>>>>alias.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>bruce
>>>>
>>>>PS.  It is possible that another moderator may feel differently and delete the
>>>>thread.  If so, nevermind.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bruce I seriously doubt if there is any moderator or "reasonable" person that
>>>would find such a innocent remark offensive. Unless such a person is Seriously
>>>insecure.
>>
>>I don't consider it offensive.. I _do_ consider it to be horribly poor
>>taste...
>
>
> Ok Bob I concede, that it may have been of poor taste, (defpending on the
>audience) but for me it was said completely without a second thought, as it is a
>very common folk saying where I am from, I had no idea anyone would find this
>remark offensive, I mean it is like I am afraid to breathe around here, this
>newsgroup has become extremely sensitive, hell maybe I would be better off at
>rgcc. I will make this my last post I think I will feel a little more
>comfortable somewhere where my every word no matter how well intentioned will
>not be put under a microscope and judged.  Excuse me for living !


Grow up. I didn't say a thing about the above until after it started getting
discussed.  It ranks right up there with "GDMF" and similar expressions using
four-letter words.  But it didn't make me write to the moderators, I just
thought "geez, totally tasteless" and went on.

So get off the high-horse...I only pointed out that it was horribly worded,
I don't care how 'flippant' it was.  It is even worse than "I beat it like
I beat my wife"...

There are plenty of better metaphors around...



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