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Subject: Re: PREDICTION: GM's can draw 50% of games or more at 5 minutes vs comps if?

Author: Igor Syry

Date: 09:43:58 09/17/99

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On September 17, 1999 at 00:10:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 16, 1999 at 23:14:08, James B. Shearer wrote:
>
>>On September 16, 1999 at 09:56:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>There are two issues.  1 in 100 is pretty close to zero and probably within
>>>acceptable bounds.  the main issue is 'crafty' on ICC.  Note that it runs 24
>>>hours a day, 7 days a week.  But it doesn't take much to figure out that I do
>>>lots of other things on this machine, so crafty runs at a "nice 20" level.  If
>>>you play it during the day, you are _guaranteed_ to play at least one game where
>>>it hardly searches at all for several consecutive moves, such as when I am
>>>making a new linux kernel, or compiling gcc, or working on various other
>>>programs I fiddle with all the time, including crafty itself.  It is very likely
>>>that out of 30 games in one day, one or two will be like playing crafty on an
>>>old 8086, nodes-per-second wise, because of this.
>>>
>>>That is why I usually encourage anyone to specifically ask to play a match so
>>>that I can set things up where this doesn't happen, and you get to play the
>>>'real' crafty without it getting crushed when another compile is fired off...
>>>
>>>I save _all_ pgn games from both crafty and scrappy...  what was your handle
>>>when you played and I'll see if I can scrape up the pgn for the losses to see
>>>what might have gone wrong, if anything...
>>
>>        My ICC handle is rabid.  Btw the statistics I gave for my play vrs
>>crafty were wrong.  I used the statistics command in cblight.  I don't what the
>>heck this command is doing but it is not generating correct statistics.  Maybe
>>it is being confused by players with similar names to crafty such as
>>craftycrafty. (The search command on ICC definitely seems to be confused by
>>similar names.  If I do "search crafty rabid" I get the correct result but if I
>>do "search rabid crafty" some craftycrafty games are included.) It appears I
>>actually had 3 wins and 3 draws in about 40 games.  Most of these games were in
>>1998.
>>                             James B. Shearer
>
>
>ah hell...  that is a problem everywhere...  ICC can't get it right either as
>the 'search' command will match all players that have the same starting chars
>for the handle.  IE search crafty will get games by crafty, craftycrafty, and
>anybody else that starts with crafty.

To avoid expanded search try putting a (!) at the end of the search expression,
for ex:

search crafty! rabit

Igor


>
>I did write a pgn parser that will suck in pgn games, grab the names and
>results, and summarize the entire file, player by player.  Since ICC/chess.net/
>fics only emails me crafty/scrappy games, I have a chance of getting good data.
>To use ICC's search you have to watch what you search for.
>
>But in any case, if you'd like to play a series of games, most any time control,
>rated or unrated, let me know. 1998  was either pentium pro, or if the games
>were fairly late in 1998, quad pentium pro.  It is quite a lot faster now, as
>well as playing better and more anti-drawish than back then.
>
>It would be fun to see whether you can lock things up, even if you make a
>mistake and lose... I'm working on that...



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