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Subject: Re: Moderation: What Did He Say?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:28:18 09/17/99

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On September 17, 1999 at 14:47:21, odell hall wrote:

>On September 17, 1999 at 09:23:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 17, 1999 at 02:06:35, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>On September 17, 1999 at 00:02:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 23:42:22, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 21:06:24, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 19:29:53, Thom Perry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 18:55:01, Bradley S., Short wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 17:53:52, odell hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 13:16:08, Bradley S., Short wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The last time I even used Chessmaster 3000 was on a 486/50. Lately
>>>>>>>>>>I have been playing around with it on a Celeron 366 and it is much
>>>>>>>>>>improved.
>>>>>>>>>>Beat Novag Sapphire 5 to 0 at game in 60 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>Draw against CM5500 at 3 min per move.
>>>>>>>>>>Draw against CM6000 at 3 min per move.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It takes time to play these 3 min per move games but so far CM3000 hasnt
>>>>>>>>>>been beaten. It can see over 200,000 postitions per second. more
>>>>>>>>>>four times 5500 or 6000.
>>>>>>>>>>Both 5500 and 6000 are much more sophisticated programs with better
>>>>>>>>>>algorithms so they would no doubt defeat 3000 in serious matches but
>>>>>>>>>>still I am quite pleased with the old boy.
>>>>>>>>>>I used 3000 to learn to play the game and back then it really used to
>>>>>>>>>>make short work of me. As I got stronger I began to see its weaknesses..
>>>>>>>>>>Later I got 4000 and went back to getting spanked.
>>>>>>>>>>But now that the hardware is 10 times faster 3000 made a significant leap
>>>>>>>>>>in strength. Enough to interest me again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you ask me Chessmaster 3000 is rather weak, I beat it like a step-child
>>>>>>>>>when I had my cyrix 233
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stop and think for a moment and perhaps you can come up with a very nice analogy
>>>>>>or metaphor involving someone of a different race.  Imagine for a moment how mad
>>>>>>a whole bunch of people would get if you used this analogy in this group, and
>>>>>>your best response to this would perhaps be to go hide under a rock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now imagine an analogy involving some light belligerent intent, or reference to
>>>>>>a meat product, or something like that.  If you use this analogy, perhaps it
>>>>>>offends someone, and your response would be something like, "excuse me for
>>>>>>living, buster".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There has been a complaint about the analogy at the end of the quoted post.  I
>>>>>>think the analogy is somewhere between the two situations described in my
>>>>>>previous two paragraphs.  I can see the point of the complaint, but I don't want
>>>>>>to delete the post.  I would ask that people consider carefully the effect their
>>>>>>words will have on the large and diverse population of people who read CCC, and
>>>>>>please try to use images that won't result in complaints to the CCC moderator
>>>>>>alias.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bruce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS.  It is possible that another moderator may feel differently and delete the
>>>>>>thread.  If so, nevermind.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bruce I seriously doubt if there is any moderator or "reasonable" person that
>>>>>would find such a innocent remark offensive. Unless such a person is Seriously
>>>>>insecure.
>>>>
>>>>I don't consider it offensive.. I _do_ consider it to be horribly poor
>>>>taste...
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok Bob I concede, that it may have been of poor taste, (defpending on the
>>>audience) but for me it was said completely without a second thought, as it is a
>>>very common folk saying where I am from, I had no idea anyone would find this
>>>remark offensive, I mean it is like I am afraid to breathe around here, this
>>>newsgroup has become extremely sensitive, hell maybe I would be better off at
>>>rgcc. I will make this my last post I think I will feel a little more
>>>comfortable somewhere where my every word no matter how well intentioned will
>>>not be put under a microscope and judged.  Excuse me for living !
>>
>>
>>Grow up. I didn't say a thing about the above until after it started getting
>>discussed.  It ranks right up there with "GDMF" and similar expressions using
>>four-letter words.  But it didn't make me write to the moderators, I just
>>thought "geez, totally tasteless" and went on.
>>
>>So get off the high-horse...I only pointed out that it was horribly worded,
>>I don't care how 'flippant' it was.  It is even worse than "I beat it like
>>I beat my wife"...
>>
>>There are plenty of better metaphors around...
>
>
> I think your overreacting to my post using language way to strong, as far as my
>metaphors being in poor taste, need I remind you of the Robert Hyatt Lexicon,
>where you use terminology that makes my language sound "very Mild", so I think
>you are the last person to make any comment about my use of language.

If you take the 'context' around my comments, things change quite a bit.  You
will _never_ find me dropping 'beat him like a ...' or anything else into a
normal conversation...  I might get a bit more abusive when I have to deal with
someone like Rolf, who has thankfully gone the way of dinosaurs at present.

And I really don't care whether you think I should comment or not.  I didn't on
the original post.  I did after the thread continued.  The comment was gross.
Live with it...



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