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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Chess System Tall II?

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 14:33:37 09/17/99

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On September 16, 1999 at 22:24:38, Laurence Chen wrote:

>On September 15, 1999 at 16:29:48, eric guttenberg wrote:
>
>>Jim,
>>
>>You shouldn't be so bashful about your opinions. Next time, say what you mean.
>>
>>I think you 're right though. I am perfectly willing to believe in an upset
>>when one comes along, but if the only posts regarding CSTal's outplaying
>>H7.32 come from Thorsten then I am inclined to be skeptical.  The other
>>evidence clearly supports Hiarcs' superiority and to categorically dismiss
>>multiple such match results by stating without proof that it is all cheating
>>is not a convincing argument, to say the least.
>>
>>On top of that it does make one wonder about the reliability of the current
>>match.
>>
>>eric
>I believe that everyone is entitled to one's opinion. The problem is how valid
>are the results posted by the people at this site? It's very easy for anyone
>running computer vs computer to "fudge" the results, or to not include some
>games so that the score will favour one engine over another. So as the reader
>has a choice to believe or to discard the results posted. Unless there's a
>closed and controlled testing without the possibility of biasing the results,
>then any results posted by anyone can be considered to be false.
>I would think that all the people who makes contribution to this site tries to
>be honest with their results.... however, there's always that doubt....! :)
>Just because one is not able to reproduce the move played by the engine does not
>prove that the game did not happen. Your system may not be the same as the
>system used by the tester. A computer is a computer is not identical. You may
>have a pentium running with different hardware, video card, and another may have
>the same pentium with a totally different hardware. And performance between
>these two computers can be very different.


Hello Laurence,
You are quite correct of course.  The problem with some people here is that they
seem to be on a mission to prove a certain program is stronger than it really
is.  Most people here are just doing the games for a hobby and not trying to
prove a certain engine is better than another.  Sometimes we are surprised by
the results we get, but we have to accept what happened.
Jim Walker



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