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Subject: Re: from "Scacco": No steps forward in Computer Chess in the Last years !?

Author: blass uri

Date: 14:01:28 09/18/99

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On September 18, 1999 at 15:40:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 18, 1999 at 11:42:38, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On September 18, 1999 at 10:01:04, Masciulli Gianluigi wrote:
>>
>>>I was reading an article by prof. Giovanni Righini (university of Milan) titled
>>>"L'eredita' di Deep blue" on the italian chess monthly "Scacco!"
>>>
>>>I almost falled from my chair when i red:
>>>"....
>>>E' da anni che il software scacchistico non migliora piu'
>>>..."
>>>
>>>(trad. No step forward in chess software in the last years)
>>>
>>>I want say that Righini is one of best italian expert in CC, and he in the
>>>article esplain that the progress in the last years is mainly by hardware.
>>>So I don't want to contest anything to prof. Righini but im just puzled in
>>>this may be true or not.
>>
>>It is not truth that there is no step forward in chess software in the last
>>years.
>>
>>There are always new and better programs.
>>
>>Genius3 was the best program some years ago and Genius did no step or almost no
>>step forward but other programmers did steps forwards and now their programs are
>>clearly better relative to the past.
>>
>>Junior5 is clearly better than Junior4.6 and the next version of Junior is going
>>to be clearly better than Junior5
>>
>>The same is for Hiarcs7.32 relative to Hiarcs6.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>but the improvements are definitely _driven_ by hardware advances.  Go run
>the latest hiarcs on your old 386 against Genius 2 and see what happens...

I think that before 1997 the main improvements were hardware improvement
because the best commercial program in 1994-1997 was genius and there was no
significant improvement in genius.

I think that in the last 2 years half of the improvement is hardware and half of
the improvement is software.

I guess that if you give the best commercial program of today(probably
Hiarcs7.32) the hardware of 2 years ago(PII300 the hardware of many participants
in WMCCC) and play it in 40 moves/2 hours against the best program of 2 years
ago on pIII550 the result will be close to equal.

Uri



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