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Subject: Re: Number of Moves in a Position

Author: Andreas Stabel

Date: 08:05:05 09/20/99

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On September 20, 1999 at 08:01:29, Phil Dixon wrote:

>On September 19, 1999 at 10:06:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 19, 1999 at 08:17:46, Phil Dixon wrote:
>>
>>>I recently played a game where I had the possibility of 68 different moves in
>>>one position. I didn't actually count them but relied on a program analysis of
>>>the game afterwards that shows the number of moves per position.  I am
>>>interested in knowing what is the most possible moves for one side in a
>>>position.  Can someone figure this out or is it too difficult?  As for me, I
>>>haven't a clue how to do it.
>>>
>>>Many thanks!
>>>
>>>Phil
>>
>>
>>I don't remember the exact number, but my Cray Blitz partner Harry Nelson
>>had a position with over 200 moves.  218 rings a bell but I wouldn't bet money
>>on that being exact...
>
>Would you happen to have an example of such a position?  It sounds fascinating.
>If it's not too hard to find, I would like to see.  Thank you very much for
>taking the time to give me an answer to my occasional questions.
>
>Phil

This has been posted several times, but since it is some time since the last,
here it is:
1. no promoted pieces, without promotion moves: 109 white moves (W.Cross 1967)
2. no promoted pieces                         : 144 white moves (J.Ban 1960)
3. with promoted pieces                       : 218 white moves (Dickins 1968)
4. with all 32 pieces                         :  99 white moves (HH.Cross 1946)

1. 5k2/2K5/3N1B1P/P1NB4/6Q1/4R3/P1PP1P1P/1R6 w - - 0 1
2. n1r1r1b1/1P1P1P1P/1Q6/3NBNK1/R7/4p1p1/3PBPkP/2R5 w - - 0 1
3. 3Q4/1Q4Q1/4Q3/2Q4R/Q4Q2/3Q4/1Q4Rp/1K1BBNNk w - - 0 1
4. q2Q3r/n6R/kpB1N1K1/p1p1Bppp/1PN3P1/1n1pp1b1/P1PPPP1P/r5Rb w - - 0 1

Theese positions may break several chess engines :)
Regards
Andreas Stabel



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