Author: Manuel Rodriguez Blanco
Date: 22:16:18 09/20/99
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On September 20, 1999 at 13:14:20, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>On September 20, 1999 at 11:42:17, Shep wrote:
>
>>>:-)) we will see what the programmer says afterwards :-))
>
>The programmer said to me:
>
>
>"The "programmer" says that 2.50 is a chess program developers only sampler
>version and is not
>an upgrade to cst2 for general purpose use. This is made clear on the web site
>(well, I think it is
>clear). We have reason to believe that 2.50 is generally broken, especially in
>the style
>department, Thorsten gets poor game results with it and the style of play is
>disappointing. Valid
>end user upgrades are 2.01, 2.02 and 2.03. I have no problem with Shep making a
>tournament
>including cst2.0x, but he shouldn't, and it isn't realistic to use 2.50 if he
>wants to get sensible
>results.
>
>Ultimately however, I don't really care either way. All that seems to happen is
>that dumb people like to
>argue about it on the "my atari is better than your amiga" basis. This wasn't my
>idea for what would
>happen by releasing the program, nor by providing upgrades. Probably better in
>general to stop making
>cstal versions, no joy in it for me anymore, and the general public, if ccc is
>anything to go by, don't
>deserve any little gem in the desert in any case. Seems they only want to kill
>the little gems.
>
>Bye.
>
>Chris"
>
>
>
>>Essentially the same as you ("2.50 broken"), but he is clever enough to know
>>it's no use getting into a "no permission to publish" discussion with me. :)
>
>Aha - so you are "very clever" too !
>Brilliant. this is what we need. more people testing unlicenced and broken
>versions.
>
>
>
>>As I said, if I am able to confirm 2.50 is indeed broken, I will put a footnote
>>in the respective tournament page (as I did with MChess 8 in SC 98 III where I
>>used a setting which was classified as "experimental" by Marty).
>
>Why did you download this version ?
>Why ?
>I mean: you download something without reading the text on the web-site ??
>You plan and use a version without permission in a tournament
>and don't read the text while downloading it ??
>That does not seem much precise to me !
>
>>You should remember that people with an own mind never do slavishly what they're
>>told. :)
>
>Aha. thats your kind of showing MIND in this discussion.
>I have put sugar in the tank said the guy to the car-mechanician.
>"You should remember that people with an own mind never do slavishly
>what they are told" :-)
>
>>And that freaks just do anything when they experiment. :))
>
>If you do experiment, please let cstal out.
>This kind of faked data is not what i am interested in.
>
>>I think the basic point is the question: will 2.03 and 2.50 differ
>>significantly?
>
>
>oh men. the guy has indeed "a mind".
>Of course they differ significantly. that can be seen from the games
>played. But how should YOU know this. You don't know the program.
>you only play as blind as you download and thats your kind of transfer
>work coming from your mind.
>
>
>>If that is the case, I will need no further proof which version
>>is weaker but simply accept Chris' (and your) statement it is broken.
>
>
>this could have been a decision sensibly done before the tournament
>by asking me or chris. could.
>
>>I was under the impression that the actual engine did not change, therefore I
>>used 2.50 (because I didn't want two otherwise identical copies sitting on my
>>disk). If the 2.03 -> 2.50 difference is more than just slight speed differences
>>caused by the new engine concept, I am willing to accept that my decision was
>>wrong.
>
>
>Aha. he has a mind :-)
>
>>Shep "Anti-Tarzan" :-)
>
>I see Bo Derek has brought some culture under your kind of guys.
Here we go again, is CST very aggressive because you are very aggressive too?
Man, i think you can answer in better form if you calm down first, i hope you
take mi advice before answer this, if not i will be in problems
Manuel
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